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2025/2026 Group Build Season - Call For Ideas

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kitbasher

#45
Quote from: zenrat on March 25, 2025, 03:14:05 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 23, 2025, 05:44:33 AMA couple more, hopefully self explanatory:

Battle of Britain 1936

VE/VJ Day 1946

Re the VE/VJ day idea. Would both have had to have occurred in 1946 or could one have occurred earlier or maybe later ? So VE Day in 1946 but VJ day in 1948, or VE Day in 1945 as was and VJ Day in 1946 as was likely without the Bomb ?

Or VE day in '41 following Sea Lion and VJ day in 43 following the Soviet invasion of the Home Islands... :o

So (according to google translate) Tag des Sieges in Europa (Tag SE). 

Alternate VJ Day in 1943 as suggested I think would have to assume no Operation Barbarossa.

What a different world we'd be living in had that been the case.  Would Germany have still declared war on the USA following Pearl Harbor, for example? 

And with no German invasion of the USSR, there's no reason for US Lend-Lease to the Soviets (unless Japan had declared war on the USSR as the 1930's Soviet–Japanese border conflicts had properly hotted up (and no 1941 Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact) and the Pacific war still started in Dec '41, with US Lend-Lease to the USSR starting in 1942).

So how well equipped would Soviet forces in the Russian Far East have been?  Would an invasion be feasible, would it have succeeded?

Not dismissing the VJ '43 idea, just pondering the many possible permutations.
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
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NARSES2

#46
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 07:49:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 01:40:39 AMWhat  about jet aircraft using only radial or turboprops?


Call me thick but I don't understand. What are we starting with and what are we supposed to end up with ?
The government has banned all turbofan and jet powered engines so the owners or operators have to resort to turboprop or radial engines to power their aircraft.

Right. I've also included in-line engines as well as radials.

Actually thinking about it I'm not sure this subject is'nt excluded as we had a re-engine it GB within the last 2 seasons exclusion period. I need to ponder on it.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on March 24, 2025, 10:51:37 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 23, 2025, 05:44:33 AMA couple more, hopefully self explanatory:

Battle of Britain 1936

VE/VJ Day 1946

Re the VE/VJ day idea. Would both have had to have occurred in 1946 or could one have occurred earlier or maybe later ? So VE Day in 1946 but VJ day in 1948, or VE Day in 1945 as was and VJ Day in 1946 as was likely without the Bomb ?

Both in 1946

Right  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

Quote from: RAFF-35 on March 24, 2025, 11:11:12 AMHas there been a "Great War" group build recently?

Failing that, a Mud Movers ground attack build would be good.

Maybe a Thunderbirds style rescue vehicle theme?

Speaking of Thunderbirds, how about a display team build?

Right

We haven't had a Great War GB in the previous 2 seasons so I'll include it in the Poll. I'll also frame your Thunderbirds thoughts as the Thunderbirds Style GB
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on March 25, 2025, 03:14:05 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 23, 2025, 05:44:33 AMA couple more, hopefully self explanatory:

Battle of Britain 1936

VE/VJ Day 1946

Re the VE/VJ day idea. Would both have had to have occurred in 1946 or could one have occurred earlier or maybe later ? So VE Day in 1946 but VJ day in 1948, or VE Day in 1945 as was and VJ Day in 1946 as was likely without the Bomb ?

Or VE day in '41 following Sea Lion and VJ day in 43 following the Soviet invasion of the Home Islands... :o

Right framed as two separate suggestions :-

Operation Sea Line - Success and Soviet invasion of the Japanese Home Islands 1943.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

kitbasher

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2025, 06:06:20 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 07:49:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 01:40:39 AMWhat  about jet aircraft using only radial or turboprops?


Call me thick but I don't understand. What are we starting with and what are we supposed to end up with ?
The government has banned all turbofan and jet powered engines so the owners or operators have to resort to turboprop or radial engines to power their aircraft.

Right. I've also included in-line engines as well as radials.

Actually thinking about it I'm not sure this subject is'nt excluded as we had a re-engine it GB within the last 2 seasons exclusion period. I need to ponder on it.

As a turboprop is a jet with a propeller, so the suggestion could only be (to me) a 'pistonise it' GB, therefore basically 're-engine it'. 
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
On the go: Beaumaris/Battle/Bronco/Barracuda/F-105(UK)/Flatning/Hellcat IV/Hunter PR11/Ice Cream Tank/JP T4/Jumo MiG-15/P1103 (early)/P1127/P1154-ish/Phantom FG1/I-153/Sea Hawk T7/Spitfire XII/Spitfire Tr18/Twin Otter/FrankenCOIN/Frankenfighter/Zero

NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on March 25, 2025, 06:46:51 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2025, 06:06:20 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 07:49:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 01:40:39 AMWhat  about jet aircraft using only radial or turboprops?


Call me thick but I don't understand. What are we starting with and what are we supposed to end up with ?
The government has banned all turbofan and jet powered engines so the owners or operators have to resort to turboprop or radial engines to power their aircraft.

Right. I've also included in-line engines as well as radials.

Actually thinking about it I'm not sure this subject is'nt excluded as we had a re-engine it GB within the last 2 seasons exclusion period. I need to ponder on it.

As a turboprop is a jet with a propeller, so the suggestion could only be (to me) a 'pistonise it' GB, therefore basically 're-engine it'. 

Exactly what I'm thinking
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

McColm

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2025, 06:49:04 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 25, 2025, 06:46:51 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2025, 06:06:20 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 07:49:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 24, 2025, 01:40:39 AMWhat  about jet aircraft using only radial or turboprops?


Call me thick but I don't understand. What are we starting with and what are we supposed to end up with ?
The government has banned all turbofan and jet powered engines so the owners or operators have to resort to turboprop or radial engines to power their aircraft.

Right. I've also included in-line engines as well as radials.

Actually thinking about it I'm not sure this subject is'nt excluded as we had a re-engine it GB within the last 2 seasons exclusion period. I need to ponder on it.

As a turboprop is a jet with a propeller, so the suggestion could only be (to me) a 'pistonise it' GB, therefore basically 're-engine it'. 

Exactly what I'm thinking
Oops I didn't think about that, sorry.

zenrat

#53
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2025, 06:12:08 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 25, 2025, 03:14:05 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 24, 2025, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 23, 2025, 05:44:33 AMA couple more, hopefully self explanatory:

Battle of Britain 1936

VE/VJ Day 1946

Re the VE/VJ day idea. Would both have had to have occurred in 1946 or could one have occurred earlier or maybe later ? So VE Day in 1946 but VJ day in 1948, or VE Day in 1945 as was and VJ Day in 1946 as was likely without the Bomb ?

Or VE day in '41 following Sea Lion and VJ day in 43 following the Soviet invasion of the Home Islands... :o

Right framed as two separate suggestions :-

Operation Sea Line - Success and Soviet invasion of the Japanese Home Islands 1943.


It wasn't meant as a suggestion, more an observation.  But OK, go on then.

Scooter already suggested an Operation Downfall GB and given the Red Army would have been included in the fun IRL then surely they would be allowed to partake in whiffery.

As for the other one, make it  an Operation Sea Lion GB (attacking or defending team) as that gives us more scope.  No need to get specific as to a victor.







Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

How about just 'Wheels'?

Covers a multitude of sins, but rules out ship modellers to an extent I guess. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
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NARSES2

Quote from: McColm on March 25, 2025, 10:45:08 PMOops I didn't think about that, sorry.

Not a problem I had to check.

Right afte musing on the subject I've decided it is to close to the subject of the re-engine it GB and is thus excluded.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on March 26, 2025, 03:36:31 AMIt wasn't meant as a suggestion, more an observation.  But OK, go on then.

Scooter already suggested an Operation Downfall GB and given the Red Army would have been included in the fun IRL then surely they would be allowed to partake in whiffery.

As for the other one, make it  an Operation Sea Lion GB (attacking or defending team) as that gives us more scope.  No need to get specific as to a victor.


I wondered if it was meant as an observation, but then thought they were good enough subjects to be included in the Poll.

The Red Army did in fact invade Japanese occupied Manchuria/Northern China in 1945 so could legitimately be included in an Operation Downfall GB perhaps invading the Northern Home Islands ?

I'll simply add Operation Sealion (German invasion of the UK) to the Poll
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2025, 05:25:17 AMHow about just 'Wheels'?

Covers a multitude of sins, but rules out ship modellers to an extent I guess. :(

Paddle wheel steam ships ?  ;)

Added
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Rheged

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 26, 2025, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2025, 05:25:17 AMHow about just 'Wheels'?

Covers a multitude of sins, but rules out ship modellers to an extent I guess. :(

Paddle wheel steam ships ?  ;)

Added
What about Bazin's  roller ship?     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_ship
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Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rheged on March 26, 2025, 06:34:24 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 26, 2025, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2025, 05:25:17 AMHow about just 'Wheels'?

Covers a multitude of sins, but rules out ship modellers to an extent I guess. :(

Paddle wheel steam ships ?  ;)

Added

What about Bazin's  roller ship?     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_ship


Why not? Both of the above work a treat.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit