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Heller Hawk H.75

Started by The Rat, March 27, 2025, 04:43:29 PM

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The Rat

Not as difficult to assemble as their horrid M.S.406, but not a shake-and-bake. Wings and horizontal stabiisers are defying attempts to align them parallel, so I'll just have to photograph it from angles that don't show that. Markings? I'm leaning toward another Spanish Civil War Republican.

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kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
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jcf

Good luck going forward.  :wacko:

The old Monogram P-36A was the best R-1830 Hawk 75 in 1/72nd for a long
time and much better than the Heller. The only externally visible difference
between the P-36A and the H75A-3 is that the latter has two guns in each wing.
Easily added to the Monogram kit. 

The Rat

Quote from: jcf on March 27, 2025, 08:09:07 PMGood luck going forward.  :wacko:

The old Monogram P-36A was the best R-1830 Hawk 75 in 1/72nd for a long
time and much better than the Heller. The only externally visible difference
between the P-36A and the H75A-3 is that the latter has two guns in each wing.
Easily added to the Monogram kit.

Yeah, but I saw it, grabbed it, and hoped it was better than the M.S.406. As I said, it is, but not by much. Fortunately Heller got better, and I'm still on the prowl for a Saab Tunnan, and maybe another Lansen, that was a nice kit.
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

The Rat

Quote from: kerick on March 27, 2025, 07:32:17 PMOr Finish!

As you probably know, the Finns actually had them, so it wouldn't be a whiff. Plus the Spanish Republican scheme is so much simpler, green with red accents, no roundels. and simple numbers that were not regulated as far as I know, so any old spares should suffice. It all fits with Bailey's First Law (humbly named after myself): Necessity may be the mother of invention, but laziness is usually the father.  ;D
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

kerick

I'm looking for one with spats to transfer to a P-40. What if spats had continued into the jet age? An F-80 with three spats like a Piper?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kerick on March 28, 2025, 11:36:59 AMI'm looking for one with spats to transfer to a P-40. What if spats had continued into the jet age? An F-80 with three spats like a Piper?


I like the whole idea, a 'Spats GB' even?

Maybe the 'Brian da Basher Memorial GB'?  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 28, 2025, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 28, 2025, 11:36:59 AMI'm looking for one with spats to transfer to a P-40. What if spats had continued into the jet age? An F-80 with three spats like a Piper?


I like the whole idea, a 'Spats GB' even?

Maybe the 'Brian da Basher Memorial GB'?  :thumbsup:

 :thumbsup:
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

jcf

#8
Quote from: kerick on March 28, 2025, 11:36:59 AMI'm looking for one with spats to transfer to a P-40. What if spats had continued into the jet age? An F-80 with three spats like a Piper?
Special Hobby did a Hawk 75M/N/O kit that included all three of the different trouser and spat arrangements. They show up on evilBay.
Clearprop has released Hawk 75M, 75N and 75O kits. Each kit only includes the trousers/spats, and other parts, that are correct for each particular variant. Being modern tools they are much better and hilariously sell for less than some of the old (2003) Special Hobby kit listings.

PR19_Kit

Arma Hobby are about to do another Curtis 75, and if it's anything like their Hurricane it should be a zinger.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

Quote from: jcf on March 28, 2025, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 28, 2025, 11:36:59 AMI'm looking for one with spats to transfer to a P-40. What if spats had continued into the jet age? An F-80 with three spats like a Piper?
Special Hobby did a Hawk 75M/N/O kit that included all three of the different trouser and spat arrangements. They show up on evilBay.
Clearprop has released Hawk 75M, 75N and 75O kits. Each kit only includes the trousers/spats, and other parts, that correct for each particular variant. Being modern tools they are much better and hilariously sell for less than some of the old (2003) Special Hobby kit listings.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 28, 2025, 03:36:45 PMArma Hobby are about to do another Curtis 75, and if it's anything like their Hurricane it should be a zinger.

Sounds great!

Remember the Lockheed engineers who took a T-33 and put two biz jet engines on it? They called it the Skyfox. Imagine it with spats!



https://vintageaviationnews.com/restorations/palm-springs-air-museum-completes-boeing-skyfox-restoration.html


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jcf

Speaking of tricycle Lockheeds with spats.
XJO-3 (12A Electra Jr.). The first tricycle landing gear aircraft to takeoff from and land on an aircraft carrier. CV-2 Lexington 30 August 1939, eleven takeoffs and landings. 
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The USAAC also had one designated C-40B.
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The Rat

Okay, paint scheme is decided. Russian aircraft supplied to the Republicans were fnished in a sort of olive drab, but this is an American aircraft, so it was supplied in natural metal, which was the USAAF style at the time. One of these days I will grit my teeth, summon up some courage (no doubt aided by various aloholic imbibations) and try some Alclad, or similar product, but I wasn't going to waste it on this bit of plastic. The red touches are already done, now I have to scrounge some suitable looking numbers from my decal stash.

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

kerick

That's going to be very cool.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

The Rat

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr