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The English Electric Dalgety, the 'Just in case' project.

Started by PR19_Kit, March 04, 2025, 06:46:33 AM

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Gondor

I just remembered that I have a plastic ruler that measures in feet to 1/48 scale. So, digging that out and using my 1/72 scaled ruler, I find that you need 36" letters and numbers in 1/48.

Gondor

And look what I found later https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ML489022?result-token=g0hK3
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Gondor on Yesterday at 10:35:14 AMAnd look what I found later https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ML489022?result-token=g0hK3


They have the numbers, but no Vs or Ns. :(

Oddly the entire VN 8** series has got LOADS of blanked areas, bags of scope for Whiffing serials.

But in the meanwhile the Dalgety is almost complete, only missing its wheels and landing gear doors now. Plus a decent paintjob and some decals of course.  ;D

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Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 12:03:09 PMThey have the numbers, but no Vs or Ns. :(


That sheet does have a lot of W's though, I'm sure it would be possible to turn some into V's and N's from them.

Quote from: Wardukw on Yesterday at 01:18:54 PMIs it me ..or does that look just right 😉


No, not just you, it looks very nice indeed, too good to be in this Group Build.

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Wardukw

Quote from: Gondor on Yesterday at 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 12:03:09 PMThey have the numbers, but no Vs or Ns. :(


That sheet does have a lot of W's though, I'm sure it would be possible to turn some into V's and N's from them.

Quote from: Wardukw on Yesterday at 01:18:54 PMIs it me ..or does that look just right 😉


No, not just you, it looks very nice indeed, too good to be in this Group Build.

Gondor
Isn't annoying how us lot are so good than even our bad ideas end up looking like good ones ...looks wise at least anyway 🤷
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Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

Hehehe, glad you think it's TOO good for a bad idea.  ;D

The landing gear was a bit of a PITA. I bought some SAC white metal legs, designed for the newer Airfix B(I)8 and PR9 Canberra's, but I also got a Reskit set of gear bays designed for the same kits. Now logic would say that even though this is an old Airfix B6 the SAC legs should fit the Reskit gear bays, right?

Wrong! They don't. :(

With a small drill and some scraping with my trusty scalpel they do fit now, albeit assisted with a substantial amount of gel superglue, but I can't figure out how the two add-ons ended up that way.  :-\



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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

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I forgot to mention the radiators under the wings.....they just look so right !
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Captain Canada on Yesterday at 04:24:45 PMI forgot to mention the radiators under the wings.....they just look so right !


They came from the Academy Spitfire XIV kits too, I figured it would need some cooling for those hefty7 Griffons, why not the same system as worked on the Spitfire?

They needed a little filing to get them to sit correctly as the Spitfire had greater dihedral than a Canberra, and the ones on the inboard wing section didn't need any dihedral angling at all.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on Today at 03:23:42 AMThey came from the Academy Spitfire XIV kits too, I figured it would need some cooling for those hefty7 Griffons, why not the same system as worked on the Spitfire?
They needed a little filing to get them to sit correctly as the Spitfire had greater dihedral than a Canberra, and the ones on the inboard wing section didn't need any dihedral angling at all.


 :thumbsup:  :mellow:


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Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 02:38:10 PMNow logic would say that even though this is an old Airfix B6 the SAC legs should fit the Reskit gear bays, right?
Kit, you're trying to apply logic to the aftermarket parts companies who probably don't talk to each other.  And in a perfect world they would.
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Quote from: scooter on Today at 04:49:50 AMKit, you're trying to apply logic to the aftermarket parts companies who probably don't talk to each other.  And in a perfect world they would.


But surely if the Reskit gear bay mouldings are designed to accept the standard Airfix gear legs, and the SAC gear legs are meant to fit the standard Airfix gear bays, the SAC legs ought to fit the Reskit gear bays?

The main gear legs almost fit, but needed a bit of packing to ensure the legs were vertical, but the SAC nose leg was just too long to fit in the nose gear bay. I had to severely carve the rear end of the bay about, and to re-position the main mounting hole at the front.

For sure they're well glued in place now, but it shouldn't have to be like that.  :angry:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Now I've got to the painting stage, and what a PITA that is!

VN799, the prototype Canberra, was painted in what was called 'Petter Blue' for its first flight, and for many others later on too. But what colour is 'Petter Blue'? It's said that Petter himself defined the colour, and it was not only used on the first Canberra but also on the first Folland Gnat as well, also designed by Petter, but it's not an 'official' shade.

If you Google 'Petter Blue' you do actually come up with an actual colour with that title, but it's the blue used by the Petter Diesel Engine Co. for their engines, and it's NOT the one I'm looking for. To confuse matters more, that other 'Petter Blue' is also called Azure Blue, which IS an official RAF colour, it's the one that the Middle East theatre aircraft were painted in on their undersides, and to that end I got a bottle of Humbrol Azure Blue acrylic today to try it out. At the same time I got some Tamiya Medium Blue as well as it looked sort of OK on the lid.

WRONG!

Neither colour is anything like the proper 'Petter Blue', but as there are no colour pics of VN799 anywhere to be seen, at least I can't find any, it's difficult to make a match. Now you may say that just such pics of VN799 appear on the Net, but not so.

What SEEMS to look like VN799 is actually WJ874, a T4 that was painted as VN799 by the RAF in 1999 to commemorate the Canberra's 50 years in service, and it did look very smart indeed, and I'm basing my colour scheme for VN800 on that pic.



You can tell it's not really VN799 as it doesn't have the dorsal finlet forward of the fin itself.

There's a whole thread on this on Britmodeller, and from that lot you could choose just about ANY light blue as they all profess to be 'the expert' on the subject, but on here the expert is me, if only because I SAW VN799 at Farnborough  ;D OK, I may only have been 7 or 8 at the time, but I did see her.  ;D

I've made a mix of Hataka Oxford Blue and Luftwaffe Light Blue, which looks grey to me, and I've got a first coat on half the airframe now. The difficulty will be matching that mix for the other half and for subsequent coats, but we'll see how it goes.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit