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Double deltas - SAAB J35A/B & Sk35C Draken (1957 Revell kits)

Started by Pellson, October 04, 2024, 08:05:09 AM

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zenrat

Quote from: Rick Lowe on April 07, 2025, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 06, 2025, 06:27:34 AM
Quote from: steelpillow on April 06, 2025, 04:44:28 AMI always want to build a kit straight from the box. It jut never seems to work out like that... ;)


I'm not sure that I ever have, EVER, even when I was young!  :o

I completed quite a few on Friday Nights after tea, when we'd gotten it at the shop* and then got back home.
To be fair, I was (really) young and they looked like you'd expect from that sort of treatment, but - early, learning days.  ;)

*mostly Airfix bagged kits, as I recall.

Build the kit with stringy tube glue twisting the parts from the sprues.  Put the transfers on.  Fly it round the house while the glue dries and then paint it the next day painting right up to the edge of the markings.  Things were less complicated back then.
:thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on April 08, 2025, 04:18:16 AMBuild the kit with stringy tube glue twisting the parts from the sprues.  Put the transfers on.  Fly it round the house while the glue dries and then paint it the next day painting right up to the edge of the markings.  Things were less complicated back then.
:thumbsup:

Paint ? What was that ? Don't think I painted anything in the early years, and mostly used that tiny little capsule of glue you got in the kit.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

steelpillow

My main goal was to glue the fuselage carefully enough so the prop would still spin but it was held together well enough not to drop apart. Then hold it out the car window as Dad drove along.

The other joy was the firework season, when a cheap banger was just the right size to fit in an Airfix MiG 15, with the blue touchpaper sticking out the exhaust nozzle.
Cheers.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: steelpillow on April 08, 2025, 06:51:21 AMThe other joy was the firework season, when a cheap banger was just the right size to fit in an Airfix MiG 15, with the blue touchpaper sticking out the exhaust nozzle.


Hmm, why does that ring a bell?  :wacko:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 08, 2025, 06:52:22 AM
Quote from: steelpillow on April 08, 2025, 06:51:21 AMThe other joy was the firework season, when a cheap banger was just the right size to fit in an Airfix MiG 15, with the blue touchpaper sticking out the exhaust nozzle.


Hmm, why does that ring a bell?  :wacko:

Or two  :angel:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Pellson

Quote from: zenrat on April 08, 2025, 04:18:16 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on April 07, 2025, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 06, 2025, 06:27:34 AM
Quote from: steelpillow on April 06, 2025, 04:44:28 AMI always want to build a kit straight from the box. It jut never seems to work out like that... ;)


I'm not sure that I ever have, EVER, even when I was young!  :o

I completed quite a few on Friday Nights after tea, when we'd gotten it at the shop* and then got back home.
To be fair, I was (really) young and they looked like you'd expect from that sort of treatment, but - early, learning days.  ;)

*mostly Airfix bagged kits, as I recall.

Build the kit with stringy tube glue twisting the parts from the sprues.  Put the transfers on.  Fly it round the house while the glue dries and then paint it the next day painting right up to the edge of the markings.  Things were less complicated back then.
:thumbsup:

I think I always painted first, but otherwise, this is to the spot. And those were good days!
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

steelpillow

I dreamed of kits with parts moulded in different coloured plastic, right down to the markings, so when you glued them together it didn't need decals or painting.

Sixty years later, the Airfix Quickbuild Spitfire is the nearest yet. They do versions in green/brown, green/grey and desert.
Cheers.

Pellson

Quote from: steelpillow on April 09, 2025, 11:43:34 AMI dreamed of kits with parts moulded in different coloured plastic, right down to the markings, so when you glued them together it didn't need decals or painting.

Sixty years later, the Airfix Quickbuild Spitfire is the nearest yet. They do versions in green/brown, green/grey and desert.


Only downside with the Quickbuildsis that it seems the scales vary wildly. Or have I gotten that wrong?
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

steelpillow

They do indeed. Sized for the same weight of plastic, I suspect. The tooling can be a bit basic, too: the tinted cockpit reveals only its fastening lugs. And the decals are poor quality: not quite stick-on enough for their stiffness, and apt to be a bit transparent. You have to cut them carefully if you want to take the kit apart again. But at least the idea is there.
Cheers.

Old Wombat

I'm fairly sure their target audience for those isn't us. Perhaps "us" as we might have been 50/60/70 years ago ... Or in Kit's case, when he was at the birth of Jesus of Nazareth*:angel:




[*: You played drums back then, didn't you, Kit?  ;) ]
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Old Wombat on April 10, 2025, 05:40:25 AM[*: You played drums back then, didn't you, Kit?  ;) ]


I actually WAS s drummer once, a very long time ago, in a school band. The word 'band' is used here in its WIDEST possible sense!

I'm not sure it QUITE that far back though............  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Pellson

Another expansion of this thread, but I thought it appropriate as also this third installation will be based on the ancient (1957!) Revell kit.

This example was snagged off our local Evilbay variant at a somewhat high cost, in particular as the fuselage halves had been painted (more on that later) and glued together. However, all parts were included, including the somewhat elusive two-piece canopy and windscreen that sets the original Revell mould apart from the Mastercraft/Mistercraft rip-off. Also, this being a 1989 reissue, there's a nice decal sheet and an additional sprue with pylons, fuel tanks and missiles, all of them incorrect, and a camera nose that may be used on either a reconnaissance Draken or a late Danish WDNS F-35, in both cases however having to be somewhat reshaped. That said, the air-to-air missile rails are quite useful as they actually do resemble early Swedish Sidewinder pylons.
And in any case - spares always come in handy, don't they?

This is, however, what came in the box I bought.

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Or almost. As you can see, I have cut away a length of the fuselage spine in order to make room for the new, twoseater cockpit. Also, I have reshaped the wing tips as per the other two Drakens in this thread, and I have filed and sanded a bit here and there in preparation for further construction, as you do.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

steelpillow

And there's me been mulling over the design of my quad/octa-fan VTOL Draken.

Looked out the old Revell build and I had finished it in a Testors matt rattlecan varnish - only forgot to mask the canopy first.
Any ideas what to soak it in?
Cheers.

Pellson

Quote from: steelpillow on Yesterday at 09:45:46 AMAnd there's me been mulling over the design of my quad/octa-fan VTOL Draken.

Looked out the old Revell build and I had finished it in a Testors matt rattlecan varnish - only forgot to mask the canopy first.
Any ideas what to soak it in?

Oven cleaner, I suppose?
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Rheged

Quote from: Pellson on Yesterday at 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: steelpillow on Yesterday at 09:45:46 AMAnd there's me been mulling over the design of my quad/octa-fan VTOL Draken.

Looked out the old Revell build and I had finished it in a Testors matt rattlecan varnish - only forgot to mask the canopy first.
Any ideas what to soak it in?

Oven cleaner, I suppose?

Dettol disinfectant might do the job,    and you end up with a sterilised model too.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet