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Vickers VC-10 Superb

Started by Hobbes, August 05, 2018, 08:38:49 AM

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Hobbes

in 1965, BAC proposed a double-decker version of the VC-10. This would mate a new fuselage with the Super VC-10 wing and tail unit, and RB.178 Super Conway engines of 27,500 lb thrust. Capacity would be 265-286 seats. 
The new fuselage would have as much commonality with the VC-10 as possible, e.g. the fuselage sides of the lower bubble would be identical to the VC-10 ones.
This version would have had better economics than the VC-10 (the wing which was overkill for the VC-10 came into its own here).

Source material: Stuck on the drawing board, Project Cancelled, the VC-10 Superb brochure, 2x Roden VC-10






strobez

Oh, you bet I'm keeping my eye on this one. I love it already.  What's the size of this baby?
Thanks!

Greg

Hobbes

#2
Fuselage length is 37 cm. Scale 1/144.

AS.12

Curiously enough, a few days I ago I was comparing the VC-10 with the 757 and 767.  It actually comes in marginally heavier than the original 767-200 ( 147 versus 136 tonnes MTOW ) but has about 80 sq ft less wing area than the 767.  Aspect ratio is also lower for the VC-10, 7.4 versus 8.0.

And even the 707-320 only had 40 sq ft less than the VC-10.  I do wonder sometimes if the hot and high 'compromises' are exaggerated in order to cover for the fact that it just couldn't compete with the Boeing marketing machine.

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63cpe

Oh........my............God...........Hobbes. This is a real frankenstein project! It's going to be lots of PSR....But it sure will pay off. Can't wait to see it finished...

kitnut617

This has got to be done in 1/72   :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

loupgarou

What brand of putty are you  using?
I will buy some shares of the society.  ;D
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

PR19_Kit

TWO Roden Super VC10s?  :o

You must have a very friendly bank manager..........  ;D ;)

That looks a pretty complex build, best of luck with it.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

TheChronicOne

Good Lord!!   :wacko:    This looks nutty, I love it.  :mellow:
-Sprues McDuck-

NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Hobbes

#10
Quote from: AS.12 on August 05, 2018, 11:16:30 AMCuriously enough, a few days I ago I was comparing the VC-10 with the 757 and 767.  It actually comes in marginally heavier than the original 767-200 ( 147 versus 136 tonnes MTOW ) but has about 80 sq ft less wing area than the 767.  Aspect ratio is also lower for the VC-10, 7.4 versus 8.0.

And even the 707-320 only had 40 sq ft less than the VC-10.  I do wonder sometimes if the hot and high 'compromises' are exaggerated in order to cover for the fact that it just couldn't compete with the Boeing marketing machine.

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Cost estimate from the brochure:


Hobbes

#11
I've more or less finished this (and I got it done in time for Telford). There are a few items I still need to sort out (the decals need repairs).







Another set of RB.178 engines (same basic design I used for the Jet Belfast, now in side-by-side configuration):





Next to a standard VC-10 (the RB.211 test bed G-AXLR, based on the Airfix kit), you can see it's much longer. If you look back at the photos at the start of this thread, I hacked up the Roden kit (which is a Super VC-10) and inserted 2 fuselage sections, totaling 17 windows.


Tophe

nice double-deck model, congratulations! :thumbsup:
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

63cpe

#13
Lovely! What a great model! :wub: :wub:

PR19_Kit

REALLY impressive work there Harro.   :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit