I am thinking about getting into 1/700 scale ships.  Unfortunately it appears that I am severely limited as to choice WWII Japanese or American primarily with RN and others as a minor group. I am particularly interested in post-war RAN and RN ships as well as Indonesian ones.  What I want to know is why do the Japanese concentrate on the Japanese and American ships?  Seems self-defeating to me.   

Quote from: rickshaw on August 15, 2022, 11:43:30 PM
I am thinking about getting into 1/700 scale ships.  Unfortunately it appears that I am severely limited as to choice WWII Japanese or American primarily with RN and others as a minor group. I am particularly interested in post-war RAN and RN ships as well as Indonesian ones.  What I want to know is why do the Japanese concentrate on the Japanese and American ships?  Seems self-defeating to me.   

It IS stupid, but actually, many cold war and modern RN ships are available.

IHP does the Colossus class CV

Matchbox/Revell does a reasonably generic wartime emergency destroyer (HMS Kelly) that can be more or less endlessly adapted and rebuilt to match more or less RW post war scenarios
Matchbox/Revell also does HMS Tiger, the CH helo cruiser. If you are a bit aggressive, you can use the hull and forward superstructure for a gun Tiger or even a Swiftsure cruiser. Both could, theoretically, have carried Se Dart missiles.. 

Dragon/Revell made the Type 42 DDG in two versions, the short Batch 1/2 and the long Batch 3. The former also was put forward to RAN but they went US instead, going for the Charles F Adams class DDGs
- which incidentally also are made by Dragon/Revell in different issues.

Airfix does some in 1/600, primarily the Type 12 Leander and Type 21 Amazon. The former can be cut down to a reasonable 1/700 and actually, if you're handy building your own superstructure, the RAN Swan class. The Amazon can be modified too, but it is not as easy. However, it's easier than modifying the disappointing Dragon Type 21 issue that is sold as 1/700 but scaled to 1/600. Really annoying!
Airfix also does the big County class DDG that also can be cut down, if with a lot of work. Upside with the Airfix Amazon and Counties are that they come with very, very nice Exocet launchers, actually very well scaled to 1/700 whereas the Dragon/Revell weapon sprue Exocets are 1/600!

Dragon also does a quite nice Type 45 Daring modern DDG whereas Trumpeter does a Type 23 FFG. Dragon also does the Trafalgar-class SSN which easily can be backdated to a Swiftsure boat as well.

I believe Trumpeter is preparing for a 1959 version HMS Belfast cruiser as well. Looking much forward to that, I tell you!

OKB Grigoriev does resin O-class SSK boats as well as the more modern Upholder.

There are also Ton-class mine sweepers available in resin from a Dutch company (have forgotten their name, Artitec, maybe?), and someone also did a very nice injection wartime River class FF that reasonably easily can be modified to a post war Loch or Bay.

Ozmods do a few very very nice resin Daring destroyers, one in original configuration and one modified with new funnels and enclosed bridge.

Going Whif, there's also a lot of wartime cruisers that could be "extended" into the cold war, such as Fly Hawks Dido and Bellona classes. You could also possibly keep the KGV-class BB's active for a bit longer. And wartime Tribal destroyer hulls can easily be modified and used for late/post war Battle-class DD's as well as the never built G/Gael class.


That is about all I can think of from the top of my head, but I'm sure there's someone else that can add to this. And anyway, this should keep you occupied up to Christmas, methinks..

EDIT: Dragon obviously also does the Invincible CVS STOL carriers in at least two variants, i.e the original set up as well as the Gulf War HMS Ark Royal with Goalkeeper CIWS etc.

You're a walking catalogue of 1/700 floaty things, aren't you Mr. Pellson? 

Quote from: rickshaw on August 15, 2022, 11:43:30 PM
What I want to know is why do the Japanese concentrate on the Japanese and American ships?  Seems self-defeating to me.   

It's where the market is for the production runs they require in order to turn a profit.

It always amazes me the number of 1/700 ships you see at stands on UK shows, but I think the majority of them are resin.

This might help a little https://starling-models.co.uk/

OzMods' Daring-class offerings:

Vampire:


Vendetta:


http://www.ozmods-kits.com/ship-kits-1700

They also do a 1/700 V-class Vendetta (available at BNA Model World)



https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-ships-boats-ozmods-models-ozomkit7002-1:700-hmas-vendetta

Dragon(ex Pitroad) do/did the 1/700 Perry Class with RAN options along with the Perth Class Charlie Adams Destroyers
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/dragon-7015-oliver-hazard-perry-class-frigate--234113

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-ships-boats-dragon-models-dr-7146-1:700-ran-hmas-perth-d-38?utm_source=scalemates&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=marketplace



Also 3D Printed stuff from Shapeways Master in Military do the Swan and River class Frigates:-
https://www.shapeways.com/product/7L4JUZ5CV/hmas-yarra-iii-de-45-1961-1-700?optionId=244432472&li=shops


https://www.shapeways.com/product/RK5GYPKNW/hmas-parramatta-iii-de-46-1981-1-700?optionId=244430476&li=shops


https://www.shapeways.com/product/MZQUY9LW2/hmas-swan-iii-de-50-destroyer-escort-1-700?optionId=158158764&li=shops


The Anzac (Meko 200) class has been done in resin by DoDo and EV Resins

The IHP Colossus class can be converted to a Sydney or even Melbourne with some work

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2022, 04:51:25 AM
You're a walking catalogue of 1/700 floaty things, aren't you Mr. Pellson? 

Well, postwar RN is, to be fair, one of my main interests. 

OK,  thats some help in my search for ships of the right period.  Still need a HMAS Melbourne light fleet carrier model but I think one of the other Triumph class might be to be an easy substitude.  Now for Russian/PLAN ships...   

If you want a Melbourne as was, then any Colossus-class is your closest starting point but you'll have to build a new deck & modify the superstructure a (fair) bit.

There have been a few attempts to pull together a resin kit of Melbourne (including by OzMods) but none have come to fruition, that I'm aware of.

The Japanese concentrate on those subjects because the USN was their major adversary in WWII
and the navy they've been most involved with in the post WWII era. Following the loss of Prince of Wales
and Repulse the Royal Navy was minimally involved in naval campaigns against the IJN in the Pacific
until 1945.

What about India, Burma etc. folks will hasten to exclaim, well sure the Imperial Japanese Army was
hammered, but those were land and air campaigns the RN had little to do with it and anyhow it wasn't
battle against the Imperial Japanese Navy in the Pacific Ocean. It was the CBI Theatre not the Pacific
Theatre.

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 22, 2022, 03:52:20 PMThe Japanese concentrate on those subjects because the USN was their major adversary in WWII
and the navy they've been most involved with in post WWII. Following the loss of Prince of Wales
and Repulse the Royal Navy was minimally involved in naval campaigns against the IJN in the Pacific
again until 1945.

Very true Jon. By the time my dad got out there with the BPF it was well into 1945.

Quote from: Old Wombat on August 18, 2022, 03:55:52 AMIf you want a Melbourne as was, then any Colossus-class is your closest starting point but you'll have to build a new deck & modify the superstructure a (fair) bit.

There have been a few attempts to pull together a resin kit of Melbourne (including by OzMods) but none have come to fruition, that I'm aware of.

It is a real shame there are no mainstream postwar 1/700 Colossus/Magnificents, tons of real world and WHIF potential, I have had to scratch build two:

Ex-Melbourne in Royal Navy Falklands service:





Ex-Virant in Soviet service:

  

Marvellous Colossii, Sandie!! 

There's a lot more producers now that 3D printing is generally available.  If you want esoteric ships you can look through Shapeways.

There is this site from a group of people including me, though it does need a significant expansion of the producers and products available, which we'll get around to eventually.

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