208 Sqdn flew Buccs with 4 x Sea Eagles from Lossie for some time, but they certainly reduced performance and range. It sticks in my mind that they never flew in that config with the bomb bay tank fuelled up, but I can't see what the connection was, perhaps a weight limitation?

I thought I'd add some inspiration with
the oldest naval vessel in the world still in active service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_monitor_Parna%C3%ADba_(U17)

Quote from: tigercat on September 22, 2011, 04:29:30 AM
I thought I'd add some inspiration with
the oldest naval vessel in the world still in active service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_monitor_Parna%C3%ADba_(U17)

Wow neat!

Quote from: tigercat on September 22, 2011, 04:29:30 AM
I thought I'd add some inspiration with
the oldest naval vessel in the world still in active service

I suspect that some in the US Nave might disagree with that claim. The USS Constitution (Old Ironsides) was commissioned in 1797 and is still carried on the US Navy roster of active ships.  Although, I doubt that it would ever actually be involved in action ever again.

I guess it depends on how you define active. But which is better the Constitution or the Parnaiba. There would seem to be only one fair way to determine the answer in the Words of Harry Hill Fighhttttttt!

Quote from: Ed S on September 22, 2011, 09:03:51 AM

Quote from: tigercat on September 22, 2011, 04:29:30 AM
I thought I'd add some inspiration with
the oldest naval vessel in the world still in active service

I suspect that some in the US Nave might disagree with that claim. The USS Constitution (Old Ironsides) was commissioned in 1797 and is still carried on the US Navy roster of active ships.  Although, I doubt that it would ever actually be involved in action ever again.

HMS Victory even manages to beat the Constitution, she's currently the flagship of the Second Sea Lord.  She'll never float again though & the job that they do to keep Old Ironsides seaworthy is very impressive.  I've managed to have been aboard both.

I was perusing the stash this morning and found an old Monogram AC-47 kit and the first thought was to convert it into some American variant of an IL-14 Crate and have it serve until kingdom come, likely in some cargo capacity.     

cheers,
Daryl J.

in a world where the writer of the RAF defense review is sucked into a whirlpool and turned into a flea...

HS P1154 USMC in desert storm insignia???

Gofy

Quote from: McColm on January 21, 2011, 04:32:50 AM
If the Buccaneers were never retired then they would be able to carry 4 x harpoon anti-ship missilels, the Jaguars could be navalised for the Fleet Air Arm. Small enough for landing on the Ark Royal.
The Vulcans and Victors would have new engines and resparred wings. Cockpit and even fly-by-wire controls.
The Canberras would have in-flight refueling probes added.
The Nimrods, carbon materials, digital cockpit and a four foot plug down the middle to make them wider. Could have used the Comet MK5s if they had been built.!!
Some how the Shackletons would be restricted to flying displays.
The VC-10 did experiment with a different engine but, the negatives won.

i wouldnt fancy a go around in a jag lol

the bump of this topic has inspired me for a new idea, a stealth P-51D.

i call it the P/F-51S, thinking of a turboprop powered mustang, with the supercharger on the bottom removed and replaced with an internal weapons bay, and 2 smaller sidebays on the tail, behind the cockpit, to house twin FIM-92 launchers (as AIM-9 would be a bit big)

I'd describe the Brasilian Parnaiba as the oldest naval vessel capable of combat action. Yes, in _theory_ USS Constitution could carry and fire weapons, but even if she weren't a national treasure, her design is too vulnerable to modern weapons.

The USN, of course, sold off old vessels steadily over the decades; one might see the late-war-build DDs, DEs, and similar ships still providing patrol duties, with updated weapons and electronics; perhaps mothballed and sold out as the USN built more modern vessels.

Modernized Skyraiders, a late WW2 design, could still provide COIN.

I'm pretty sure there are Gearings/Sumners still floating in a few navies of the world, if not some Fletchers... places like Mexico or Iran...

Quote from: Mossie on September 22, 2011, 12:42:21 PM
HMS Victory even manages to beat the Constitution, she's currently the flagship of the Second Sea Lord.  She'll never float again though & the job that they do to keep Old Ironsides seaworthy is very impressive.  I've managed to have been aboard both.

Me too.  And the Missouri.

Where's the Belgium F-104S Super Starfighter?

Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 01, 2011, 04:28:11 AM208 Sqdn flew Buccs with 4 x Sea Eagles from Lossie for some time, but they certainly reduced performance and range. It sticks in my mind that they never flew in that config with the bomb bay tank fuelled up, but I can't see what the connection was, perhaps a weight limitation?

The Buccaneer carried a maximum of 3 x Sea Eagles but the common practice was just a pair as the missile produced quite a lot of drag on the bombing run. They could carry four Harpoon anti-ship missiles all day until the stores were empty. The Nimrods' got priority over the Buccaneers on the Harpoon quoter.
I was fortunate to listen-in on practice run whilst working at Northwood Command Centre when I was in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force  1986-1997.