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Quote from: zenrat on February 09, 2023, 02:44:57 AMI wonder how many of these will actually get read by the judges?

When I sat my "O" Level history exam back in 1968 we had to answer a set of "general" questions on the period, which was expected to take 30 minutes and then answer 5 questions in the remaining 2 and a half hours. My history master told us to each answer should be 5 paragraphs long and we could concentrate on the first and last para's as he reckoned few markers bothered with the middle 3 and I reckon that's the same with most judges at shows of any ilk.

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Quote from: zenrat on February 09, 2023, 02:44:57 AMI wonder how many of these will actually get read by the judges?

When I sat my "O" Level history exam back in 1968 we had to answer a set of "general" questions on the period, which was expected to take 30 minutes and then answer 5 questions in the remaining 2 and a half hours. My history master told us to each answer should be 5 paragraphs long and we could concentrate on the first and last para's as he reckoned few markers bothered with the middle 3 and I reckon that's the same with most judges at shows of any ilk.

At the other end of England, I was given exactly the same advice in 1967 (took O level history a year early)!   In later years, when marking similar exam papers, I took great care to read the whole answer fully, despite being told by a more experienced marker that I should read the first and last paragraphs of any essay most carefully and just scan rapidly over the rest.  He could mark at least twice as fast as I could, but I only ever had one paper regraded on appeal  whereas he reckoned that 10% of his marking would be regraded.

Quote from: zenrat on February 09, 2023, 02:44:57 AMI wonder how many of these will actually get read by the judges?

Trust me. The judges DO read the Historical and Construction papers.
The judges allocate points for your model entry based on a few factors. How many points TOTAL your entry recieves determines whether you got 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place.
Historical Account paper: Between 1-10 points
Construction Account paper: Between 1-10 points
Historical Accuracy (Model): Between 1-10 points
Construction Value of Model: Between 1-50 points
Overall Appeal: Between 1-20 points
Since my Wisconsin battleship model is pure what if fantasy, I can tell you right now the Historical Accuracy of the model would probably only get 1 point since the ship doesn't exist in the real world.

How do they judge historical accuracy?
The judges cannot be experts on everything they will be required to judge and I can't believe they will individually research each subject as they judge it.
So they must rely on research material provided by the entrant, comparing the model in front of them to that material (which in this case appears to be the Historical Account paper you will write).
So write a paper which lays out proposed developments which would have lead to a Battleship such as you built.  While not Historically accurate your model will be accurate to your paper.

Personally, I think that this whole requirement to provide reference material when you enter a model into a show is complete bollocks.  Just judge what's in front of you.  Are there visible mould separation lines, seams, fingerprints on the canopy?  Is it painted well?  Are the panel lines ridiculously heavy?  And most important, do you like it and wish you'd built it and does it make you smile.
I'd love to judge a class at Expo.  There would be so many complaints...

I'd always argue that the model you see is what the background tells - that's my personal whiffing pihilosophy ever since and also includes the scenic pics I take/post. "What you read is what you see", and v.v.
Rivet counters and "historic experts" will probably insist on accuracy - but the ability to put the elements together and recognize where reality and where whif end/start/blend into each other in a plausible fashion would be my standard which I expect from judges. If you only get a single point for a fictional background story then there's no appreciation or imagination involved, resulting in a poor jury with a limited horizon. From my experience, many modeling judges think that their opinion is "the truth". But that's not their job. It's judging the effort and the whole picture. But you can rarely argue with these people when they are not open for fiction and imagination.

Quote from: zenrat on February 10, 2023, 02:35:38 AMPersonally, I think that this whole requirement to provide reference material when you enter a model into a show is complete bollocks.  Just judge what's in front of you.  Are there visible mould separation lines, seams, fingerprints on the canopy?  Is it painted well?  Are the panel lines ridiculously heavy?  And most important, do you like it and wish you'd built it and does it make you smile.
I'd love to judge a class at Expo.  There would be so many complaints...

    

Many years ago I won a class at the Bristol show (Best 1/144 scale airliner, for the record it was a Braniff 727-200 in the blue Ultra scheme  ) and as well as getting a Putnam's Boeing book, another part of the 'prize' was to be a judge at the next year's show.

So I duly turned up at the Judges Forum as requested and they asked me to judge..................................the FIGURES Class!     

I know as much about figure modelling as I know about brain surgery, so declined that part of the 'prize'.

I know of a couple of shows many years ago who would deliberately have a least one judge in each class who was not a modeller/painter (one show was a wargames show I seem to remember) of the particular genre they were judging on the basis that theirs's would be the "oh that does look good/I really like that" voice on the panel rather than the one looking for technical finesse.

Quote from: Rheged on February 09, 2023, 06:23:19 AMAt the other end of England, I was given exactly the same advice in 1967 (took O level history a year early)!   In later years, when marking similar exam papers, I took great care to read the whole answer fully, despite being told by a more experienced marker that I should read the first and last paragraphs of any essay most carefully and just scan rapidly over the rest.  He could mark at least twice as fast as I could, but I only ever had one paper regraded on appeal  whereas he reckoned that 10% of his marking would be regraded.

My history master in the last two years was Mr Johnny Barlow, a good Lancashire lad, so maybe from the same background ?    First three years was Mr Cox who left teaching and became a very, very senior civil servant.

If you want to know what the rules for the contest are like, here they are:
https://www.wisconsinmaritime.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Rules-and-Conditions-of-Entry.pdf

That my friends is how to suck all the joy out of modelling...
 

Goodness, do you have to march in, carrying the models, all in step as well?

       a sheet of a 4 with " this is a work of fiction"  on it, followed by  " all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"  as many times as it take to fill the page... or am i thinking that the judges may be self aware and have a sense of Humour / self preservation ( bonus points) if you can mount the model on a fire axe as a base        

Quote from: Steel Penguin on February 12, 2023, 08:59:10 AM      a sheet of a 4 with " this is a work of fiction"  on it, followed by  " all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"  as many times as it take to fill the page... or am i thinking that the judges may be self aware and have a sense of Humour / self preservation ( bonus points) if you can mount the model on a fire axe as a base