Gunze Sangyo paints

[Hobbes]

I've got a Trumpeter kit (A-50 Mainstay), which has painting instructions based on Gunze Sangyo Mr. Color. I use Humbrol paint, so I need to convert the GS numbers. I can't find a conversion chart anywhere (IPMS Stockholm doesn't include Mr. Color in their list). Some colors I can guess based on the color name ('black' is simple enough), but others...
These are the colors I need:

- 11 Light gray  (used on the underside of the fuselage and on the wings)
- 13 Gray  
- 56 IIN Gray green

Anyone have an idea which Humbrol colors I need?  

[Jennings]

"IIN" is supposed to be "IJN" - as in Imperial Japanese Navy.  

I wouldn't worry too much about what Trumpeter says.  I seriously doubt the Soviet Air Force used Imperial Japanese Navy paints on their A-50s.  Look at some color photos and go from there.  Trumpeter's track record for accurate paint recommendations is about as good as Bush's record on predicting what's going to happen in Iraq.

J

[Leigh]

try here you have to kinda work it backwards but it has GZ to Humbrol.
Or alternatively use Gunze Sangyo they really are great paints.

[Hobbes]

Thanks, but that list (like the IPMS Stockholm list) only has Gunze's Aqueous range, which uses different numbers than their Mr. Color range.  

[NARSES2]

Harro

Try this one, again you need to work backwards but it might help

Chris

Humbrol Equivs

[Hobbes]

Chris, thanks. That list contains Mr. Color references, unlike the others. Nr. 11 isn't in the list, though, so I guess I'll have to make something up.  

[Jennings]

With so many great paint ranges out there (Xtracrylics is the best, followed closely by Tamiya and Gunze Sangyo Aqueous), I've never seen a reason to seek out Mr. Color.  Also, I quit using about 98% of chemical solvent based paint (ie: "oil" based enamels) after I had cancer about 13 years ago.  I get way less headaches when I'm painting, which is a good indication that those paints aren't healthy for you.  Acrylics aren't drinkable, but they're not nearly as toxic as the solvent based enamels.

J

[Leigh]

Like everything everyone has their own opinions/tastes and I concurr/disagree with Jennings love Xtracrylics and GZ aqueous but I've never liked or achieved decent results with Tamiya acrylics.
For my money though the best paint out there, but hard to find is; Misterkit acrylics very very similar in properties to Xtracrylics.

[Jennings]

Like everything everyone has their own opinions/tastes and I concurr/disagree with Jennings love Xtracrylics and GZ aqueous but I've never liked or achieved decent results with Tamiya acrylics.
For my money though the best paint out there, but hard to find is; Misterkit acrylics very very similar in properties to Xtracrylics.

Interesting.  You use Gunze but not Tamiya?  I've had nothing but good luck with Tamiya, and I actually like them better than Gunze.  I've ONLY had good luck with them if I use Tamiya thinner however.  

J

[Leigh]

I've ONLY had good luck with them if I use Tamiya thinner however.  

J

Well that may be the key, I've tried both Isopropyl and de-natured Alcohol to thin them and they still seem to go on kind of clumpy, sometimes even fuzzy like flocking almot (but that could be due to atmospheric moisture). I'll invest in some Tamiya thinner and see what happens.

[NARSES2]

I always had a bit of a problem with Tamiya until I started to use Tamiya thinners (I brush paint), once I did they were fine. However I do find that they can cause problems with other makers paints.

I prefer Xtracrylic but wish they would bring some new colours out - was told the lack of new colours is more to do with the "display shelving" then demand. Any new colours would mean redoing he custom shelving - actually made sense when I heard it.

If you still use enamel (and I use some) then White Ensign are superb and sell sets (italian, French, Russian etc) at a discount

Chris

[Jschmus]

I was looking over my Hasegawa 1/72 J7W Shinden kit, and the instructions call for the propeller to be painted "Propellor Color", with no listing for an equivalent color.  The photos show a prop that looks black, but the instructions already call for Flat Black and Tire Black.

[NARSES2]

Same as when they say "Nakajima interior colour"  

Most likely colour is "Dark Reddish Brown" I use Tamiya XF-64 Red Brown courtesy of a steer from our very own Geoff

Chris