More from Telford 2006

[AeroplaneDriver]

It's a shame the maintenance stands in the TSR.2 diorama are the wrong shade of yellow.  and the technicians are obviously wearing the wrong overalls.  

but really....I think any JMN who criticizes that kind of work from a cadet group earns the original, less PC definition of "JMN".  wankers...

As for the rest, thanks for posting these for those of us who werent there!  some superb whiffery on display.  

The more times I see TSR.2s on stands instead of on their landing gear the more I think that is how mine will be built.  No offence to anyone, but none of the ones I've seen look quite right on their gear.

[Howard of Effingham]

Lakenheath F-22

seen this one before methinks.

it was at the birmingham show in 2004.

its rather better in the flesh so to speak.

and as for JMZ's. you meet them everywhere and there's no pleasing some.

nothing wrong with those cadet built TSR2. the hangar diorama is an original
idea.

trevor

[Mossie]

I took a few shots of some other stuff myself, I'll try & post them tonight.  I took a few of that TSR2 diorama myself, I was impressed.

What that JMN didn't appreciate (or more likely, refused to) was the amount of work put in by these young cadets.  I don't think it matters too much about an individuals skill, its more about their enthusiasm.  I doubt these cadets could afford even a cheap airbrush on pocket money & a paper round.

Do none of these idiots remember a time when they plastered a poorly detailed, innacurate model together, slapped on a layer of bright gloss green, popped the decals on at odd angles and stuck on as many bombs & rockets on as possible & then were proud of it because it was their Spitfire???  I think they realise that these kids are actually enjoying their hobby (god forbid!!!) & have fit of jealousy!!!

There's always talks about attempts by manufacturers to lure kids back to the hobby & how these things have to compete with computers & consoles because kids are just lazy these days.  Rubbish.  Modelling's always been a niche hobby, only populated by a few who are really enthusiastic to put the effort in.  Kids are more put off by the attitude of arrogant middle aged tossers who feel they need to massage their own insecurities by telling them their first attempt at model is crap because they can't scratch build the interior of a 1/144 Sopwith Camel.

GRRRRRHHHHH!!!!!      

[ysi_maniac]

I took a few shots of some other stuff myself, I'll try & post them tonight.  I took a few of that TSR2 diorama myself, I was impressed.

What that JMN didn't appreciate (or more likely, refused to) was the amount of work put in by these young cadets.  I don't think it matters too much about an individuals skill, its more about their enthusiasm.  I doubt these cadets could afford even a cheap airbrush on pocket money & a paper round.

Do none of these idiots remember a time when they plastered a poorly detailed, innacurate model together, slapped on a layer of bright gloss green, popped the decals on at odd angles and stuck on as many bombs & rockets on as possible & then were proud of it because it was their Spitfire???  I think they realise that these kids are actually enjoying their hobby (god forbid!!!) & have fit of jealousy!!!

There's always talks about attempts by manufacturers to lure kids back to the hobby & how these things have to compete with computers & consoles because kids are just lazy these days.  Rubbish.  Modelling's always been a niche hobby, only populated by a few who are really enthusiastic to put the effort in.  Kids are more put off by the attitude of arrogant middle aged tossers who feel they need to massage their own insecurities by telling them their first attempt at model is crap because they can't scratch build the interior of a 1/144 Sopwith Camel.

GRRRRRHHHHH!!!!!    

You shoud ask that JMN:
Can I see one of your models, just the best of them?

Those people make me sick. They can be hours speaking about Luftwaffe colours and the dates they appear, but you can never see a complete model from their hands.  

[NARSES2]

[Those people make me sick. They can be hours speaking about Luftwaffe colours and the dates they appear, but you can never see a complete model from their hands.

Never a truer word spoken

I thought it was a terrific diorama and complimented one of he cadets on the fact

[Radish]

Everyone starts somewhere.

I used to judge (with others) the annual RAF Cadet Modelling competition at RAF Stafford, held for Midland Squadrons.
By the standards of modelling at Telford, they were utterly gruesome, but these were kids, having fun, learning about aircraft and histiry, and developing modelling skills. Some of the models were terrible, but some were terrific and inventively thought out and displayed.
However, ALL were the product of ENTHUSIASM.
When I gave the final judgement, I always gave just one simple tip....not overload. Something like "have you tried gloss coating your model before decalling, and a cheap one is pinch your mothers Kleer Polish etc, etc"

Back to modelling now.

[nev]

In his favour, he's not a rivet counter and if it looks OK to him, then he's happy.

Ironic, cos what turned me against him was an article he wrote for the Aeromaster newsletter a few years ago, the general gist of which was "if you don't build models to MY standards and to MY levels of accuracy, you should quit the hobby".

Nothing I have ever read in the 8 years I've been back in modelling has made me angrier.  Still sets my teeth on edge now.

[Radish]

Absolutely right, Nev.

[van883]

forgive my ignorance but what does JMN stand for (I get the gist from what people are saying) and QSG?

Van

[Radish]

"JMN" refers to anally retentive modellers who are more interested in the number of rivets on an airframe, the fact that if a model is painted in the slightly wrong shade of paint, etc., then it's worthless. JMNs deride much pleasure from talking about modelling, pouring scorn on others, but not on actually making models.

"QSG" refers to Quarter Scale Group, modellers who make models exclusively in 1/48th scale for themed-displays. Each aircraft model represents a moment in that aircraft's history, and an accompanying text to the small diorama tells the "story".
Cuurrently, their theme is "The RAF Abroad~1945 onwards", and my models have all been from the earlier part of that era....two Spitfire IXs and a Mustang of 112 Sqn. All real. When they did the RN in the same period, though, I sneaked a couple of RN F-35s into the display!!
********** belongs to the group, as I do. There's about ten of us if we all get involved.
Currently, I'm a "silent" member prefering to be daft

[Ginge!]

Wow, finding a wanker at a model contest. What are the odds?

[GeorgeC]

Do none of these idiots remember a time when they plastered a poorly detailed, innacurate model together, slapped on a layer of bright gloss green, popped the decals on at odd angles and stuck on as many bombs & rockets on as possible

Errr about 5 minutes ago.  Best I don't post the photos...

[matrixone]

JMNs...

Maybe that a-hole JMN could show his work and the correct way of using an airbrush so we will all know how its done and not waste any models or paint.


Matrixone

[Mossie]

Errr about 5 minutes ago. Best I don't post the photos...

Good stuff George, no I'd love to see it!  When I started getting back into modelling about a year ago, I knocked up a few almost the as when I was a kid, no filler or sanding, using brute force & much poly to get badly fitting parts together.  It was mainly to see if I'd regained any enthusiasm.  I'd post them but I donated them to my nephew, they're probably in dozens of bits now!

Simon.

[John Howling Mouse]

I think they realise that these kids are actually enjoying their hobby (god forbid!!!) & have fit of jealousy!!!

My thoughts, exactly.

I'm just very glad none of the young modellers were present to hear the "chuntering" (this is a new term for me---so fantastic/appropriate).