Hauling Trash - Air Freighters, Cargo Transport Aircraft, and Guppies

[The Rat]

I've got the old Aurora Convair 880 up in the attic, and it's calling to me now...    

[dy031101]

The P-3 is based on an airliner (Lockheed Electra)

I remember that Argentinean modified several Electras to carry out maritime patrol duties.

I think it's called ElectrON.

[anthonyp]

AEW DC-8

Somehow I knew mine wasn't that original:



Also, here's my A321 based MMA:



And a 757 based ASW/MPA (I called it the P-7):


And a Convair 880 cargo plane:

[retro_seventies]

I have some highly devious plans for a DeHavilland Comet and a VC-10.

- diagrams, profiles (and one day hopefully models) to come very soon, but lets just say that there was snag with the v-bomber force (reliant on US bombers based in instead? valiant put the rest of the project on hold?), and a little later a rapid "off the shelf" solution was required.

Thinking of the VC-10 as being a skybolt carrier, comet being a traditional bomber (based on comet IV, maybe with nimrod style double bubble, more oomphhy engines, lumps, bumps, tfr etc).

serials from victor/vulcan squadrons.  

Instead of V-force, how about M force?  (assuming that the TSR2 would have been the Merlin).  Would need to think of new names, but that's all part of the fun.

Possible sale of comet derived bomber to other nations?

More to come on this....  

[AeroplaneDriver]

This site has some interesting VC-10 proposals, including a super freighter and RB.211 engined tanker.

VC.10

Though I cant finda reference to it, there was also a proposed bomber/missile carrier variant of the VC.10.

[jcf]

VC-10 was proposed as a Skybolt carrier as was the Avro 776. The 776 was basically an enlarged Trident powered by Medway engines.

Vickers also proposed an area-ruled fuselage VC-10 as a military transport. The design featured a raised flight deck and under the nose loading doors similar to those on the C-124.

Jon

[retro_seventies]

Thanks both, will bear all of that in mind...good that i wasn't a million miles off with the VC-10 ideas, makes them all the more plausible.

   

[elmayerle]

It was never built, but I understand the design of the 727 included the necessary features to be able to do a tanker derivative at a later date without massive re-engineering.  That'd be something different.

[ytown2010]

what would it look like elmay? would they have done something with the third engine to keep the exhaust away from the boom?

[elmayerle]

what would it look like elmay? would they have done something with the third engine to keep the exhaust away from the boom?

I'm not totally certain, but I'd reckon the boom connection would be low enough down so that the retracted and raised boom stayed clear of the center engine.  If it were me designing it, I'd put the boom pod and pivot far enough forward to stay clear of the worst possible rotor-burst arc from the side engines.  It may not be the best criteria, but I've done too many uncontained rotor burst analyses to not take that into consideration.  *chuckle* I could tell a story here about one of those I did at Learjet.

[Chris707]

I can recall seeeing a 1960s AW&ST dealing with proposed military 727 variants, including a depiction of a drone launcher IIRC. But most interesting was a plan to use the type as a Super-COD - there were pictures of a test aircraft shooting approaches at a dummy carrier deck runway (at Pax River IIRC)

Chris
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[Mossie]

I can't find a thread to discuss these huge aircraft, so here it is.  There have been several conversions over the years of airliners or transports to produce some bizare looking aircraft capabable of carrying serious payloads.  An-225 Myria, Aero Spacelines Guppy series, Airbus Beluga, Myasischev vm-t atlant, Aviation Traders Carvair, B747 LCF Dreamliner & others.  Here's some big girls that never made it off the drawing board:

VC-10 triple fuselage version (first posted by jon carrfarrelley)


B-52 'Guppy' (from secret projects)


An-22Sh (form Secret Projects)


Simon.

[pyro-manic]

Saro Twin Princess? I'm sure I've seen a 3-view of that somewhere.

Or how about guppy-ifying a C-5? That would be a monster!