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My initial thoughts......

Started by Overkiller, January 18, 2009, 08:10:35 AM

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Overkiller

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Im completely out of ideas too. Was thinking something of an African contende, but it would have to be based on a jet though. Or perhaps a Jaguar E type, or Aston Martin... (fast for african standards ;D)

puddingwrestler

world Land Speed record for rocket assisted roller skating donkeys?

...that could make a very messy diorama...
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Mossie

Quote from: B787 on January 19, 2009, 08:36:56 AM
Im completely out of ideas too. Was thinking something of an African contende, but it would have to be based on a jet though. Or perhaps a Jaguar E type, or Aston Martin... (fast for african standards ;D)

The Jaguar D Type would be my bet for a scalorama LSR car.  Get hold of a 1/24 kit (if there is such a thing in plastic), fair in the wheel wells so only the bottom of wheels show & add a 1/32 bubble canopy (with the main canopy painted over) over the bonnet (hood).  Put a bit of plastic sheet over the existing 'cockpit' & either move the fin (if it's the later version) central or remove it altogether.  Bob's your Uncle, Fannies your Aunt!


Now if you could get hold of an XJ13 kit (doubt it!) that would work too.  You could do it with an E Type, but the wheel bulges on the other cars would fit well with a LSR car.

Some 50's & 60's Ferrari's would lend themselves in similar ways, the 250's come to mind & you shouldn't have too many problems finding kits.  The 250 GTO & 250 LM both might be suitable, although I think the 250 Testa Rossa is definate, it's part way there already with that power bulge in the bonnet!


I'm surprised nobody's thought of LSR tank yet, take that Mig-21 fuse & sandwich it between a pair of tracks, very Soviet take on the LSR.....

PS I'm probably not taking part in this so please feel free to take any ideas! :drink:
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jcf

Available D-Type kits in 1/24th are resin and pricey, however,
Revell has an old but rather nice XKSS that has been released at several times.

http://www.revell.de/manual/07205_JAGUAR_XK_SS.PDF

Resilient resins also produce a resin D-type body shell for around 30 bucks:
http://www.resilientresins.com/BodyDetails.cfm?ID=199&I=1

Jon




Hobbes

For a low-cost tracked LSR attempt, the Alvis Scorpion would be a good starting point. Delete the turret, and fit it with a supercharger and hood scoop sticking out of the engine compartment, sponsoring by Lotus...

Lotus had a Scorpion for a while, they built and tested an active suspension system (which would help in a record attempt).

Weaver

Quote from: Hobbes on January 19, 2009, 11:43:17 PM
For a low-cost tracked LSR attempt, the Alvis Scorpion would be a good starting point. Delete the turret, and fit it with a supercharger and hood scoop sticking out of the engine compartment, sponsoring by Lotus...

Lotus had a Scorpion for a while, they built and tested an active suspension system (which would help in a record attempt).

And a spoiler and an airdam and a Max Power sticker, of course............... :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
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Mossie

I'm in nuts mode now, but with a slight modification to the rules you could get a LSR Steam train in???  I saw some Dapol OO train kits in a model shop the other week.  Remove the front end & put a shock cone in to sugest a jet augmented steam train, fair the cab into the side & have the jet exhaust out the rear.  Stick any gubbins on you like, such as a streamlined funnel, pipes etc.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

Duncan, I'm very unlikely to this one & was just throwing ideas in the air, but if anyone else wants to do it they're welcome to.  I did find that there is a Land Speed Record for rail vehicles & there are several categories to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record_for_railed_vehicles

There are jet & rocket powered categories. The jet category is still held by the M-497 Black Beetle, powered by two J 47's from a B-36.  This being during the Cold War & all the Soviets tried to match it with the SVL.  I post pics in the inspiration thread, pending a decision.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

I guess it doesn't really matter too much, the two categories are different & have different rules governing them (I don't know how these apply to rail vehicles).  All I'd say, is that if a train managed to go fast enough within it's category rules, it would probably be granted the absolute land speed record.

There's precedent for this, Craig Breadlove caused a bit of a stir when he broke the LSR with the first Spirit of America.  The rule makers didn't know quite what to do, all previous contenders had had four driven wheels.  Eventually, the rules were rehashed to allow it & the driven wheels category has faded in the public eye compared to the absolute record.  So maybe this might happen if a train happened to be the fastest vehicle on the ground?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing to hard for it!
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

jcf

Quote from: Overkiller on January 20, 2009, 02:23:53 PM
Okay Simon,

well if anyone is wanting to do a LSR train, we are happy to allow it provided the vehicle is not wheel driven.

Not wheel-driven? Why not?

Jon

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I'm not sure the M-497 still does hold the non-electic rail speed record any more.

The prototype SNCF TGV 001 was gas-turbine powered and wheel driven, and it managed 198 mph some time in the mid '70s. It's imprinted on my mind because the wheel-driven non-electric rail speed record was held by BR's APT-E at 152.3 mph until then.

And I was on board at the time............ :)
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