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Revell or Italeri Saab Grippen in 1/72nd scale

Started by chrisonord, June 05, 2009, 09:11:09 AM

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chrisonord

I am debating which one of these to get as I can get them both for the same price.Which one has the best choice of weaponry with it? or would I be better off with the Revell one full stop, all ideas accepted.
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Quote from: chrisonord on June 05, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
I am debating which one of these to get as I can get them both for the same price.Which one has the best choice of weaponry with it? or would I be better off with the Revell one full stop, all ideas accepted.
Cheers,
Chris.  

Italeri, the Revell kit is either a rebox of the Italeri kit, or the inacurate 1980s Gripen kit. The Italeri kit comes with AMRAAMs, Sidewinders, 2 Maverics and 2 RBS-15s.

upnorth

Until Revell pulls their finger out and gives us a much needed new tooled Gripen (read C/D variant), Italeri is the way to go.

I honestly don't know why Revell hasn't seen fit to give us a new tooled 1/72 Gripen, they've given us superlative Typhoons and a Raptor in 1/72...A new tooled Gripen should logically follow.
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chrisonord

Thanks for that, Italeri it is then. :thumbsup:
Cheers,
Chris.
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Quote from: upnorth on June 05, 2009, 09:34:35 AM
Until Revell pulls their finger out and gives us a much needed new tooled Gripen (read C/D variant), Italeri is the way to go.

I honestly don't know why Revell hasn't seen fit to give us a new tooled 1/72 Gripen, they've given us superlative Typhoons and a Raptor in 1/72...A new tooled Gripen should logically follow.

Gripen NG please :wub:

chrisonord

The gripen, when I eventually get round to building it will probably join some major upgraded Drakens and some other countries aircraft as part of my new S.H.A.D.O air wing. Or I could give it to the Honduras AF.
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kitnut617

Chris, IIRC the Italeri kit is the two seater, at least the one I have is.  The only single seater is the Airfix kit I think.  I've not seen a single seater Italeri Gripen but someone here is bound to correct me I'm sure  :lol:
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Thorvic

Revell issued an early heavily engraved Gripen based on the mockup with steps and and an engine.

Italeri did the Gripen, then the Two seater gripen
Revell reissued the single seater as has Airfix

AFAIK i think the Revell Re-issue has additional AMRAAMs and no SAAB RB-15's

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kitnut617

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Hi Geoff, I think the Airfix kit is a re-boxed Heller (1/72 one) at least the one I have has all the earmarks of a Heller kit. There was some discussion over it on the ATF forum.

Just been looking at my PAK-20 book, the Italeri single seater was a re-box of an earlier Revell kit, the two seater is their own
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Thorvic

Nah its all Italeri origin, although the Airfix version is probably the same as the Revell boxing of the Italeri kit with the A-A weapon fit (Had all five kits at one stage and the only different one is the early Revell kit).

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Quote from: kitnut617 on June 05, 2009, 03:25:10 PM
Hi Geoff, I think the Airfix kit is a re-boxed Heller (1/72 one) at least the one I have has all the earmarks of a Heller kit. There was some discussion over it on the ATF forum.

Just been looking at my PAK-20 book, the Italeri single seater was a re-box of an earlier Revell kit, the two seater is their own

It's the Italeri kit. I've done the Italeri and the Airfix kits 2 times each. I don't think i Heller did a Gripen of their own. I can't find anything on Google. If Heller did a Gripen, it would be a rebox, possibly the Italeri kit due to the Airfix connection.

Jschmus

The Italeri single-seater has two each of RBS-15s, Mavericks (with separately molded clear sensor heads) and what are supposed to be AIM-9Ls, but fall short of the mark.  The two-seater has a mix of AIM-9s and AIM-120s.
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Hobbes

Quote from: Thorvic on June 05, 2009, 03:21:14 PM

AFAIK i think the Revell Re-issue has additional AMRAAMs and no SAAB RB-15's


Yep.

kitnut617

According to the PAK-20 book Heller did do a single seat Gripen, kit # 80288.  The book states if there was a re-box or the moulds were passed on or not and there's no indication that the Heller moulds came from somewhere else, it just says the the Airfix kit is a re-box of the Heller kit.  And as I said, it has be discussed over on the ATF forum.

I have the Airfix kit and the Italeri two seater, the parts do not match up as the mouldings are completely different, but to make sure of that comment I'll try to find the pair and take some comparison photos of them.
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Quote from: kitnut617 on June 06, 2009, 07:04:30 AM
According to the PAK-20 book Heller did do a single seat Gripen, kit # 80288.  The book states if there was a re-box or the moulds were passed on or not and there's no indication that the Heller moulds came from somewhere else, it just says the the Airfix kit is a re-box of the Heller kit.  And as I said, it has be discussed over on the ATF forum.

I have the Airfix kit and the Italeri two seater, the parts do not match up as the mouldings are completely different, but to make sure of that comment I'll try to find the pair and take some comparison photos of them.

The Italeri kit was a new mold when they released it back in 2001 i believe. Thus if the Airfix kit is the same as the Italeri kit, it is not a Heller kit. Sure there isn't an error in the PAK-20 book?