5.5 and series 6 Aircraft

[McColm]

Imagine if you could predict the future,

New pulse engines, tailless and a two seater. Light enough for aircraft carrier useage (even with a full bomb load). Dedicated pallet system for interchangeable reconnaissance or EW missions. Buddy buddy refueling, fighter, interceptor, ground attack and the list goes on..
Artificial intelligence as a second crew member, well you get the picture.

The YF-24 could be the follow on for the F-22 family.

Likewise the YF/A-25 could be the production model of the YF-23. Just as the YF-17 became the F/A-18.

The YF-26 could be the F-16 replacement.

The F-27 would be missed out as there already is the F-27 Fokker.

Lockheed has proposed a YF-28.

As there is the X-29 forward swept wing demonstrator. The F-29 wouldn't be built, unless the USAF changes its mind for a production of forward swept-winged aircraft.

I can predict something along the lines of the fictious F/A-37 Talon III, will be built.

As for the bombers the B-3 seems the only candidate until 2018 when the B-52, B-1 and B-2 will be replaced.

Britain and the Russians will join forces for the replacement of the Eurofighter and transport aircraft.

[elmayerle]

An operational derivative of the X-29 has appeared in the manga/anime "Area 88".  I can recommend it as being being enjyable reading and watching.

[McColm]

Thanks for that,
Any others?

[Spey_Phantom]

lets see now,..

MIG-31 Firefox from the movie "Firefox"
VF-1A from the "Macross" series
also in Area 88, there is an F-20 Tigershark.
in Ace Combat 3, there was an operational (modified) derivative of the X-32A, the F/A-32 Erne.

[B777LR]

The F-27 would be missed out as there already is the F-27 Fokker.

As for the bombers the B-3 seems the only candidate until 2018 when the B-52, B-1 and B-2 will be replaced.

Britain and the Russians will join forces for the replacement of the Eurofighter and transport aircraft.

The Fokker 27 Friendship was only named F-27 by Fokker and in civil use. In US military use it was actually called the C-31 Troopship

The B-3 is rumoured to be on the drawing board already. The interesting thing is, what will it look like?

The replacement of the Eurofighter, PAK-FA, A400M and An-70 are a long way off, the three of them are still in development I think it is more likely that Britain will team up with the US though, with France joining up with Russia. France and Russia have always had a relationship of some sort. Perhaps a joinup between Dassault and United Aircraft for a fighter, EADS (Airbus, Airbus Military and ATR) and United Aircraft for the airlifter and some airliners, and Eurcopter + Mil for helicopters. Eurocopter and Mil are already cooperating, under the name of Euromil, developing the Mi-38, an EH-101 sized helicopter.

The fighter will be stealthy, a bit like an F-22 or PAK-FA, but with canards 2 engines, single pilot. Possibly UCAV. Helicopters will look like a more modern overweight result of a hot-night-out between an NH-90 and a Mi-171.

[kitnut617]

The B-3 is rumoured to be on the drawing board already. The interesting thing is, what will it look like?

Supposedly, something like this ____

This appears in Combat Aircraft magazine, Vol.10,No.3

[McColm]

Congress has stalled on the funding for the next generation of bomber.
It's supprising that the aero industry has come up with one design that the Brits, Americans, French and Russians can agree on. Then customise it for their own use, like the Canberra flown by the Brits, French and Americans.
The British Motor Corporation back in the 50's pre-British Leyland would take a design i.e. the 1300 and Austin, Morris, Wolseley, Riley,MG and Vanden Plas would market their own version. So if you wanted something sporty you went for the MG, something up market would be the Vanden Plas and the bog standard model would be the Morris.

As to The F-20 there is to my knowledge only one example still flying and despite a very good marketing compain no orders were placed.

Now if they could build a modern day version of the Fairey Swordfish, just think: it can fly below  radar cover, it would be slower than any antiaircraft gun and any opposing force would be laughing so hard they would forget to shoot it down.

[B777LR]

It's supprising that the aero industry has come up with one design that the Brits, Americans, French and Russians can agree on. Then customise it for their own use, like the Canberra flown by the Brits, French and Americans.

Huh? What aircraft is that? Mind, the idea of Britain and American working together with the Russians, and the French working together with the Americans...
It hasn't happened because unlike the car industry, planes directly try to kill each others. Cars can only outcompete each others. As a result, developing the best plane is important.

As to The F-20 there is to my knowledge only one example still flying and despite a very good marketing compain no orders were placed.

Nope, the lone survivor is in a museum

Now if they could build a modern day version of the Fairey Swordfish, just think: it can fly below  radar cover, it would be slower than any antiaircraft gun and any opposing force would be laughing so hard they would forget to shoot it down.

I don't know about that. It worked during the second world war because those systems were manned. It would be a sitting duck against a ship mounted Vulcan, which is also able to counter suicide attacks from fast RIBs to prevent another USS Cole incident.

[McColm]

It's supprising that the aero industry has come up with one design that the Brits, Americans, French and Russians can agree on. Then customise it for their own use, like the Canberra flown by the Brits, French and Americans.

Huh? What aircraft is that? Mind, the idea of Britain and American working together with the Russians, and the French working together with the Americans...
It hasn't happened because unlike the car industry, planes directly try to kill each others. Cars can only outcompete each others. As a result, developing the best plane is important.

As to The F-20 there is to my knowledge only one example still flying and despite a very good marketing compain no orders were placed.

Nope, the lone survivor is in a museum

Now if they could build a modern day version of the Fairey Swordfish, just think: it can fly below  radar cover, it would be slower than any antiaircraft gun and any opposing force would be laughing so hard they would forget to shoot it down.

I don't know about that. It worked during the second world war because those systems were manned. It would be a sitting duck against a ship mounted Vulcan, which is also able to counter suicide attacks from fast RIBs to prevent another USS Cole incident.

The C-47 is the  only aircraft I can think of that served with all four countries.
It would be great if there was an export version of the Su-33 or Su-34. Built under license by the Brits i.e. the Sea King and sold to the rest of the world.

[elmayerle]

Congress has stalled on the funding for the next generation of bomber.
It's supprising that the aero industry has come up with one design that the Brits, Americans, French and Russians can agree on. Then customise it for their own use, like the Canberra flown by the Brits, French and Americans.
The British Motor Corporation back in the 50's pre-British Leyland would take a design i.e. the 1300 and Austin, Morris, Wolseley, Riley,MG and Vanden Plas would market their own version. So if you wanted something sporty you went for the MG, something up market would be the Vanden Plas and the bog standard model would be the Morris.

As to The F-20 there is to my knowledge only one example still flying and despite a very good marketing compain no orders were placed.

Now if they could build a modern day version of the Fairey Swordfish, just think: it can fly below  radar cover, it would be slower than any antiaircraft gun and any opposing force would be laughing so hard they would forget to shoot it down.

There's only one survivor of the four F-20 prototypes built, and it's mounted on the wall of the LA Science Museum.  It's got good company, though, "Excalibur", which was previously one of Paul Mantz' Bendix-winning P-51s is suspended from the ceiling nearby asnd the HL-10 is also nearby.

[bluedonkey99]

Imagine if you could predict the future,

That will the number of the lotto taken care off then!!!



sorry, i will behave in future

[B777LR]

It would be great if there was an export version of the Su-33 or Su-34. Built under license by the Brits i.e. the Sea King and sold to the rest of the world.

What do you mean? Most any countries who are not enemies of Russia could order it, if they had the money and the will. The Su-33 is a carrierborne fighter, so any operater will likely need a carrier. Those with carriers already have the alternatives. China is rumoured to want it again, following the termination of their last order for 50. Nobody will want to buy from China though, Russia would make a fuss, and the Russian aircraft are likely of better quality.
Again, the market for the Su-34 is small, and the aircraft is new/has only recently entered service. Problem is, it is overkill for most air forces. Most will opt for a multirole fighter, which leaves larger countries like India and China, who will only produce locally for themselves.

But the greatest thing that made the Sea King a success when it was made in Britain, was the fact that it was a "basic" aircraft (Any air force needs helicopters), and this was one of the few available. Su-34s are not a necesity. What might be comparable would be the Mi-17 family Imagine BAe building westernized Mi-17s for western air forces in places like afganistan