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Started by tc2324, August 09, 2011, 03:41:08 AM

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Weaver

Cross between a P-38 and a P-61.

Twin boom layout with two big radial engines (for damage resistance) with all the super/turbo/whatever charging tech you can bring to them in 1940. Minimal cross-section one-man cockpit pod is split horizontally. Fixed top half, located entirely above the wing for decent all-round visibility, has cockpit, plus MGs in the nose. Bottom half, below the wing, is an interchangeable weapon pannier. it can have a battery of cannons, various bomblet dispensers, or a large-calibre recoilless gun. Bombs or drop tanks go on inboard and outboard pylons behind the props, rockets go on outboard pylons outside the prop discs.
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sideshowbob9

Quote from: tc2324 on September 22, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on September 22, 2011, 07:04:47 AM
^ Interesting. I'm thinking of something with a Fairey Monarch style H-24 engine arrangement (where you can shut half of the "H" down to increase range) and jettisonable slipper tanks.....
Sounds interesting, although would a pilot want to shut down an engine of a high performance fighter?

Well half an engine, yes. If range/loiter time were made the priority of the spec. Worked well enough for the Gannet!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Monarch

tc2324

Quote from: Weaver on September 22, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
Cross between a P-38 and a P-61.

Twin boom layout with two big radial engines (for damage resistance) with all the super/turbo/whatever charging tech you can bring to them in 1940. Minimal cross-section one-man cockpit pod is split horizontally. Fixed top half, located entirely above the wing for decent all-round visibility, has cockpit, plus MGs in the nose. Bottom half, below the wing, is an interchangeable weapon pannier. it can have a battery of cannons, various bomblet dispensers, or a large-calibre recoilless gun. Bombs or drop tanks go on inboard and outboard pylons behind the props, rockets go on outboard pylons outside the prop discs.

Now that I`d like to see. :thumbsup:

Quote from: sideshowbob9 on September 22, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: tc2324 on September 22, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on September 22, 2011, 07:04:47 AM
^ Interesting. I'm thinking of something with a Fairey Monarch style H-24 engine arrangement (where you can shut half of the "H" down to increase range) and jettisonable slipper tanks.....
Sounds interesting, although would a pilot want to shut down an engine of a high performance fighter?

Well half an engine, yes. If range/loiter time were made the priority of the spec. Worked well enough for the Gannet!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Monarch

Fair enough, go for it. :thumbsup:
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puddingwrestler

A curious idea just came to me...
It'd be interesting to actually take an existing aircraft specification requirement and try to design our own machines to do it better than the ones in real life. Say take the spec. which resulted in the Gladiator, and see what we can come up with as a better way to do it.
Just a thought.
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Quote from: puddingwrestler on December 15, 2011, 03:06:21 PM
A curious idea just came to me...
It'd be interesting to actually take an existing aircraft specification requirement and try to design our own machines to do it better than the ones in real life. Say take the spec. which resulted in the Gladiator, and see what we can come up with as a better way to do it.
Just a thought.

Interesting thought Mr Pudding'. However it might be difficult to prevent the application of hindsight which could lead to a lot of "super" machines, which might however be the point ?
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puddingwrestler

That did rather occur to me...
Possibly we should take one of the specs which in hindsight was gloriously flawed (like the one which led to pulpit fighters in WW1!) and try to make it work!
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NARSES2

Quote from: puddingwrestler on December 17, 2011, 03:20:13 PM

Possibly we should take one of the specs which in hindsight was gloriously flawed (like the one which led to pulpit fighters in WW1!) and try to make it work!

Yup there were some gloriously insane aircraft coming out of that idea  ;D

I like the idea but maybe you could say that you had to use the engines that were available at the time of the spec being issued, not in design or testing but actualy available ?
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puddingwrestler

That makes sense. You can't go to wild, this is a whiff grounded in reality.
We might even fool the JMN - after all, we're basically doing things which would have only been prototypes. We can pull the ol' 'found in a dusty box' trick.
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Zombolt

When I have more modeling time I would love to be in this.

NARSES2

Quote from: puddingwrestler on December 18, 2011, 05:00:21 PM
That makes sense. You can't go to wild, this is a whiff grounded in reality.

Must admit those are the Wif's I tend to do
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