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PZL P series fighter in RAF

Started by simmie, March 31, 2011, 04:44:10 PM

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simmie

While doing a spot of research on something I am working on at the mo I came across this titbit of info in Air Enthusiast No.43:-

"During the early 1930's Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft entered into negotiations with Panstwowe Zaklady Zotnicze (PZL), the Polish state aircraft factory in Warsaw with a view to making the P series of fighters under licence in the UK.  Attempts to interest the Air ministry in this range of excellent fighters for the RAF came to nothing and the scheme was abandoned."

I leave this to your imaginations.
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Now with more WHATTHEF***!! than ever before!

GTX

All hail the God of Frustration!!!

sideshowbob9

^ Indeed. Also confusing as AW's own AW.16 and AW.35 fighters were no slouches themselves.   :unsure:

Daryl J.

Seriously?   


Daryl J., looking at his Mirage PZL  kits

GTX

Hmmm...I have some RAF Gloster Gladiator decals that will be left over from an upcoming project...

Regards,

Greg
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sideshowbob9

Perhaps the P.11/P.24 could be named the AW Redpoll in keeping with its Siskin/Starling predecessors (and also a slight double entendre)?



The company-owned prototype.

NARSES2

I've been musing on this for a couple of days. The PZL series have always interested me and I now have a fair few in the stash after picking up various mainly Polish kits at shows around the country.

Was thinking of doing one in overall "silver" with perhaps just a Type No for the "New aircraft display park" at Hendon circa 1936 ?

As I've always liked these "Gull Winged" types perhaps the Ikarus series could have found a UK partner as well ?
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jcf

The Gnome powered P11c prototype was in bare metal with red and white trim
It had a spatted gear during the 1934 Paris Salon and also appeared with low pressure tires.


NARSES2

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Cheers Jon.

I wonder what engine and Anglicised version would use. I know absolutely nothing about engines, apart from their names, so bear with me if the question is a little basic

Edit - Just realised Apohenia has done some profiles and a little back story and suggests the 580hp Bristol Mercury VII engines
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jcf

Chris,

PZL warplanes produced for home use were powered by Polish Skoda Works license built Bristol engines (Jupiter, Mercury, Pegasus)
, the export versions were otherwise powered (G-R) because the terms of the license granted by HM Government did not allow
export of the Polish built engines.

Now, I wonder what apo can do with the PZl P.8?
In this case the Lorraine Petrel powered P.8/II which probably would have been called P.9 in production,
a Kestrel powered version would have been the P.10 (according to Polish Aircraft 1893-1939 by Cynk).

;D ;D



GTX

Hmmm...what if Zygmunt Puławski emigrated to Scotland in the late '20s/early '30s.... :rolleyes:

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

NARSES2

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 05, 2011, 11:50:07 AM
Chris,

PZL warplanes produced for home use were powered by Polish Skoda Works license built Bristol engines (Jupiter, Mercury, Pegasus)
, the export versions were otherwise powered (G-R) because the terms of the license granted by HM Government did not allow
export of the Polish built engines.



Thanks Jon
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