Enterprize of England

Started by Glenn, March 02, 2005, 06:31:06 PM

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Glenn

One of the first web sites that I added to my favourites was "These are the voyages...", the full history of every ship with the name Enterprise.
Well, one of the first concerns a document scribed by King Philip of Spain after the Armada in which he mentioned "The Enterprize of England"!
Now, was he referring to a ship of war, or Englands' economy and power, one cannot say?
If it was a ship, a Privateer, it would have looked like "The Golden Hind", "Revenge" or The Ark Royal", so what model to use?
Seeing there are at least 3 models of the Hind available, that was an easy choise. So, with Revell not in my collection, and me with both an Airfix and Eastern European wooden model I had a decision to make.
Now, the Revell and wooden model look the same, but the Airfix model is the 'odd man out'! Odd in the sense with the Foremast, now, with most model ships of the period, the Foremast is on the forward section of the Forecastle, not on The Beak!
The Airfix model has the Foremast situated at the back of the Beak, up against the bulkhead, with the Bowsprit on a small block to the starboard of the mast, so it leans to Port, this makes it different!
Now, ships of the period, Royal Navy, were marked in triangles of multi colour all over the upper sides, and fore and aft of all bulkheads. Seeing this was to be 'The Enterprize', to was going to look different. So, I painted her in dk blue for the night sky, and yellow for the stars in the heavens.
So, this will be 'the voyages of the.......'
I've shelved it at the moment, you make mistakes if you rush things,

Model : Airfix
Scale : 1/72

Lyn

Nick

QuoteOne of the first web sites that I added to my favourites was "These are the voyages...", the full history of every ship with the name Enterprise.
Well, one of the first concerns a document scribed by King Philip of Spain after the Armada in which he mentioned "The Enterprize of England"!
Now, was he referring to a ship of war, or Englands' economy and power, one cannot say?
You may know this already, but the Empresa de Inglaterra (the Enterprise of England) was the purpose of the Spanish Armada, when they planned to overthrow the Protestant state and turn us all back to Catholicism.
It is also regarded as an unlucky toast which isn't surprising. I am told the Spanish and French made the toast to 'Our English Enterprise' on the eve of departure for invading England. They then got a bit wet.

Anyway, I like the idea and can see a brave Captain being detailed to explore the waters of the New World, seek out new peoples and civilisations, to boldly go where no Englishman has gone before.....

Nick B)  

The Rat

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WHOA! You've got more patience than me mate. Lookin' good.

What's the url for the web site? I tried Googling for the phrase and got about 8 billion fan sites.
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Great paint work Glenn, your'e going to need the same "karma" for the rigging

Chris
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QuoteGreat paint work Glenn, your'e going to need the same "karma" for the rigging

Chris
Ah yes, rigging, the primary reason I've never tried a wooden ship or a WW1 plane. Well, I started a Handley-Page O/400 as a kid, but never got the wings to stay in place.  :(

A faire loverly shippe she be, Glenn/Lyn.  :ar:  
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You must have the patience and steadiness of a pile of bricks.  That would've driven me completely insane after maybe the first few minutes.

Very nice work!

John Howling Mouse

Aw c'MON-----that's just too much!!!    :wub:  :wub:

Wow!

In the opening credits of [Star Trek] "Enterprise" there are various "aged" documents, etc. shown in quick succession and the name "Enterprize" is featured prominently.

So, uh, can we watch while you rig this wonderous baby up, Lyn?
In-Progress photos might help the rest of us----I keep promising myself I'll make a ship model for my father-in-law but I found out very early that I have no clue as to how to actually do the rigging.

Haven't found a how-to site on rigging ship models yet, either.
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Glenn

JHM,
What are the ships?
As to the rigging, that's the easy bit.
This shot is of the blunt end.
Lyn

John Howling Mouse

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The one I want to do for my father-in-law is packed away at present.
It was a smaller kit, I think it was an unarmed schooner of some sort with a German name: something...the Gorch Fock or Foch? Was written in really old style script---I kept getting it confused. Might have been an Academy kit or something weird like that.  Not a common mfg of ship kits if I recall correctly.
It appeared to be a good size to ultimately present to him in a clear display cube (not too big, not too small).

I also have the big Revell Cutty-Sark (for later, if I get the rigging all figured out).

With each, I had mistakenly presumed one could build the ship first, paint as required, etc., and apply the rigging later as a completely separate set of steps.  What I found out is that you're expected to build some of the components AS you rig the beasties, incorporating the rigging as you construct.  I can follow their diagrams well enough to sort out which line goes where, just have no idea how best to actually apply the rigging: superglue it?  Tie it (I have enough trouble with my SHOES!).  How to keep proper tension?

Oh the humanity!!

:wacko:  :unsure:  :(  :blink:

Just checked eBay, the Gorch Fock has since been re-released as a Revell-Germany kit in 1:250 scale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...bayphotohosting
Styrene in my blood and an impressive void in my cranium.

Glenn

JHM,
As to keeping the tension, with rigging, I glue it with 'model canopy glue' and as it is applied, place a peg to the cotton and let it hang.
With the 1/96 Cutty Sark, the more rigging I did, the more confusing it became. The best advice I can give you it to rig it minus the sails, as you can't work in the confined spaces, WITH A BLOODY SAIL IN THE WAY! I felt like killing the guy who designed the construction of the model.
Another thing, don't rush it, do a bit, and when you want to pull your hair out, shelve it, and work on it another time. That's what I do!
Lyn