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Geoff · July 20, 2011, 02:47:26 PM

I was thinking that it would have made good sense for the Romanians to build a version of the Jaguar A/E in place of the Jurom Orao. Which in turn could be replaced with the Mirage 2000. These could also be operated by Yugoslavia.

Other thoughts Romanian Alpha Jets,

which is where I started.

Jugoslavian Mig-21 Lancers. Where the Slovenian war (10 day War) is crushed, and reasonably good relations are kept with NATO. I did take this a bit further and have Kosovo as a Jihadi insurgency with the FSRJ being supported by NATO.

(This should probably be in the Alt History thread.)

Any thoughts?

Mossie · July 21, 2011, 02:15:12 AM

Yugoslavia took two Gnats for evaluation. If a follow on order had been forthcoming, maybe it would have been developed in favour of the Galeb & spawned some home grown variants?

Rheged · July 21, 2011, 03:19:38 AM

Quote from: Mossie on July 21, 2011, 02:15:12 AM
Yugoslavia took two Gnats for evaluation. If a follow on order had been forthcoming, maybe it would have been developed in favour of the Galeb & spawned some home grown variants?

The Gnat (and the Midge too) has always seemed to me to be an under-rated light fighter. The Indians did great things with it and given a modicum of development I'm sure that the R A F could have done so too. A swarm of Gnats with a couple of Sidewinders and an Aden cannon pod each would be a suitable mount for the RAFVR in alternative history.

Radish · July 21, 2011, 04:47:58 AM

And the new Airfix Gnat is coming........

Meanwhile, I like the idea of a Mirage 2000N....mmmmmm.

Mossie · July 21, 2011, 06:27:46 AM

Quote from: Rheged on July 21, 2011, 03:19:38 AM
The Gnat (and the Midge too) has always seemed to me to be an under-rated light fighter. The Indians did great things with it and given a modicum of development I'm sure that the R A F could have done so too. A swarm of Gnats with a couple of Sidewinders and an Aden cannon pod each would be a suitable mount for the RAFVR in alternative history.

I think the Gnat in mk.1 guise had some serious foibles but aquitted itself well in service with India, they also did a good job of ironing out the bugs with the Ajeet. Had Folland further developed the Gnat (& Petters personality not partially prevented it) it might have had some great potential.

Quote from: Radish on July 21, 2011, 04:47:58 AM
And the new Airfix Gnat is coming........

I think I'll be getting a shelf full....

Geoff · July 21, 2011, 10:18:59 AM

I hadn't thought of the Gnat, that would make a good Wif.

I am doing a Slovak hawk at the moment.

Mossie · July 22, 2011, 02:09:23 AM

Digital camo???

Geoff · July 22, 2011, 09:41:51 AM

Quote from: Mossie on July 22, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Digital camo???

No, I was going to do it in the middle euro scheme with earth, tan, and green. But I do like the idea of digital. How would you do it in 1/72nd?

Mossie · July 22, 2011, 10:03:51 AM

Three ways I can think of:

1) Rob the digi camo decals from a MiG-29 set. The MiG is probably large enough to make it reasonably easy to adapt them to the Hawk. Kopro did a couple of their MiG-29 kit with them, shouldn't be expensive.

2) Mark them onto decal sheet. Grab some graph paper & draw out a template, once your happy with the shape, carefully cut out your templates. You can probably find a few shades of near-as-dagnamit greys at Hannants, or paint clear or white decal sheet if you want it bob-on.

3) Mark them onto masking tape, using a similar method to 2, paint as normal.

Geoff · July 22, 2011, 03:03:12 PM

Cheers. Might have a go at the masking tape version.

I have just been reading that Croatia was negociating for 12 ex-Luftwaffe F-4Fs, but the deal fell through.