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Started by RussC, September 28, 2011, 04:59:50 AM

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RussC

Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 28, 2011, 10:59:25 AM
:thumbsup:

Someday...

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1746

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 Looks like a project. Consider that one of the two Shindens would not need a cockpit and that centerline pod could carry an 75mm to 90mm gun. The Ki-109 was the only actual airplane in the IJAAF that repelled a force of B-29's supposedly.
 
  Thanks, everyone.
"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to"  - Al Superczynski

Pablo1965

It's a dream collection, I love the image of comic you've managed to produce, perhaps one day, explain how to do a tutorial. I can only admire these creations as a real set of delicacies  :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

arkon

man o man , the more you post the more i like.
the plastic gods demand sacrifice

NARSES2

Just keeps getting better  :wub:
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Taiidantomcat

Quote from: RussC on September 28, 2011, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: Taiidantomcat on September 28, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Russ I had no idea that the flying wings on deviant art were just the tip of the awesome iceberg!!  :drink: These are superb! Got some questions though!

1. How do you think of these!? (F-86 wings? brilliant!)

2. How do you do your panel lines?

3. Are you going to treat us to an in progress build one of these days soon? can't wait to see how its done


Quote from: RotorheadTX on September 28, 2011, 06:10:08 AM

We arrived at a consensus that it is pointless for any of us to build flying wings, as you have cornered the market.  :bow:

He does! Makes me want to get off my lazy duff and get more going myself! (started one last week from a kit)

 The idea process works like this, take an existing airplane from history or currently, which was or is a machine made to a specific need and specification or an idea by a designer to fill or create a need.
 Now take that airplane and think about how it would have been developed, first as a flying wing design in a world where there was a sudden shift to these shapes, such as happened more recently with the concept of stealth and later composite building- more complex shapes and computer derived aerodynamics. Then try again with the given example and think of it being a simple step forward in a aviation design community where tail-less or flying wing or blended body was and had always been the normal. Try and keep with some historical basics like jet engines arriving in the 1940's along with a world war and followed by a huge rush of aerospace development inspired by cold war and later by...oil war. Remember too the engineering thought process of a given nation plus the political ways it fits in. Everyone I have met so far in this group is very versed in historical points, the aeronautical engineering basics and the topics such as weaponry and avionics and the supporting technologies. In fact, the forum and topic areas are literally organized along this thought subject list, covering the almost built, the cancelled and the idea of different nations and groups using airplanes than have or had been.
  So, its probably the same thought stream as anyone here is doing. Often I will see a craft as a whimsical addition to a film or a fiction story, where a unexpected shape or design really adds to the storyline, as we have talked about such classic examples as "Raiders of the Lost Ark" or "Things to come" or even "Mad Max" or the movie "Stealth" or the recent "Avatar".
 
  Panel lines in 1/144th scale planes are a semi-controversial subject, and there is a general agreement among the enthusiasts on the Yahoo Small Scale Models group and the KG144BBS both where I participate that (there is no correct answer to this). Another hot potato is that what should colors to paint these smallest models be formulated too to get the right " perspective" effects versus aesthetics. The formulas are shocking, being almost 50 percent desaturations in most cases as advocated by some where others simply go with the standard FS or RLM or whatever charts and go with it.
  For panel lines, some avoid them altogether, they should not logically appear at the scale and the planes should maybe just have control surfaces and windows only. Others go right ahead and do everything, including rivets and pre-shading plus for metal finishes, the varied panel types. We agree to disagree. One thing agreed on is that some molders of kits or makers of those trading-toy-collectors-kits-gashapons are making cavernous recessed lines and have gone too far.
  My style is to draw the panels on using a .5 micron tip drafting pen with archival quality ink (non-fading) and for things like control surfaces, go with a full micron pen. I do not often do any pre shading but will occasionally post shade some lines with pigments or chalks, along with things like exhaust or weaponry stains. I'll do some color changes for different materials like fabric covered controls or hot places, plus material shadings of metals. Use straight edges for the panels drawing. I do weathering, and to the anger of some small-scaler's will do chipped paint.  I'll also occasionally paint markings such as simple hinomaru's . The ones on the Japenese flying wings are all hand painted. For stars or roundels beyond the basic two color, go with decals. I seldom airbrush, most everything is brush painted by hand since the hobby is supposed to be fun versus industry.
 
  I rarely if ever take in progress pictures, just never got used to doing it. However, I have in recent years, because of questions about my techniques, written up illustrated tutorials on some methods which I can post here. Is there a best forum for tutorials or general techniques?
 
  Did I mention that I get long-winded?  :mellow: ;D

Thank you for taking the time to share so much  :thumbsup: Not long winded at all.  :cheers: Very very helpful  :bow:
"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.

sequoiaranger

RussC: >Looks like a project. Consider that one of the two Shindens would not need a cockpit and that centerline pod could carry an 75mm to 90mm gun.<

Actually the second cockpit *IS* necessary for the "aimer" of the large, wire-guided, air-to-air rockets it carried! Somewhat like the German "Fritz X", the rockets carried by this "Nibai" have a flare in the tail, and the operator/aimer has a joystick to guide it into the B-32 or whatever. The third guy, in the middle, is the "rear gunner", who must fend off the inevitable escort fighter while the Nibai is holding course during the rocket firing. Or so says I!  ;D
My mind is like a compost heap: both "fertile" and "rotten"!

Beanflick

Super awesome designs ... I love me some flying wings and these are just the bees knees! :thumbsup:

LemonJello

If possible, all these amazing flying wings make me want to start up about a dozen different ideas myself, even though I 1) know they won't be nearly as amazing and b) I have too many other irons in the fire to start another project right now.  I will be making some flying wings in the future, though after looking at all these inspirational designs in their various threads.

Again, thank you for sharing these with us.
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RussC

You're welcome.
 
And thanks for everyone here making me feel at home and to Phil for pointing my way over from Deviant Art.
"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to"  - Al Superczynski