Supersonic Light-Weight Fighter Concept

[KJ_Lesnick]

I remember a German or Russian design which had a trapezoidal wing similar to the F-23 called the rhomboid-winged fighter which appeared on the Secret Projects forum. 

I'm thinking of a WHIF design which would basically be designed for the same role the F-104 was designed for but rather than having a small, straight, tapered-wing, would have a large more substantially tapered, trapezoidal-type wing similar to the rhomboid-winged fighter (and the X-7A3, AQM-60A).  The idea would be that it would have better low-speed handling qualities but could still theoretically work well at high-speeds.

Since I'm entertaining multiple different ideas, what do you guys think about the aircraft being tailless, the aircraft having a canard, the aircraft having a fuselage-mounted tail, a cruciform-tail, a T-tail, or even a V-tail?


KJ

[Weaver]

If it's the same thing I'm thinking of, then it had thrust-vectoring engine nozzles as an alternative to canards for high maneuverability. Got to wonder what it would have handled like in a dead-stick landing though....

[Mossie]

Dornier ND-102?  Duncan (Overkiller) bashed one together:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,28662.0.html

I don't think a T or cruciform tail wouldsuit high angles of attack?  I like the idea of a semi tailess V-tail design, with the rhomboid wing it would be kind of a cross between the F-35 and McDonnell Douglas's JAST competitor.

[Weaver]

How about twin fins on booms at half span? Wouldn't be particularly stealthy, but if the fins and rudder extended a significant distance below the wing (rotate clearance would be the limiting factor), it would be very good for high-AoA stability and directional control. It would also leave the back end of the fuselage "clean" for the thrust-vectoring system. 

[KJ_Lesnick]

Weaver

If it's the same thing I'm thinking of, then it had thrust-vectoring engine nozzles as an alternative to canards for high maneuverability.

The design I'm thinking of would be from the same era the F-104 was.


Mossie

Dornier ND-102?

Well, I was thinking of a basic wing planform similar to the F-23

I don't think a T or cruciform tail wouldsuit high angles of attack?

Good point!

I like the idea of a semi tailess V-tail design

When you say semi-tailless do you mean that the plane would have elevons on the wings as well as the ruddervators?

[Hobbes]

I remember a German or Russian design which had a trapezoidal wing similar to the F-23 called the rhomboid-winged fighter which appeared on the Secret Projects forum.  

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,275.msg4819.html#msg4819

The Germans also had a rhomboid wing concept, but that was much later. MBB Lampyridae:

[KJ_Lesnick]

@Hobbes

The Germans also had a rhomboid wing concept, but that was much later

No, I'm not talking about a design like that.

[redstar72]

There was Yakovlev Yak-1000 experimental prototype with "rhomboid" wing in 1951. But actually its wing wasn't much rhomboid, although it was called so:


http://www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/yak1000.html; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-1000

This aircraft was never flown, it passed only through ground tests.

Also, Antonov OKB (yes, it's not a mistake!) projected in 1952 a fighter looking much similar:

[PR19_Kit]

There was Yakovlev Yak-1000 experimental prototype with "rhomboid" wing in 1951. But actually its wing wasn't much rhomboid, although it was called so:

Good heavens, I've got a vacform of that thing! I'd forgotten all about it, I'll have to dig it out.