Hows about this then

[albeback]

Using the Trumpeter Shenyang J-8 as the basis for a supersonic strike aircraft to replace the cancelled Hawker P1121? We could pretend it's got a couple of Speys (or Avons)  stuffed in the back end & with a few "structural" mods ? Twin tail fins, extended wings ( maybe forward swept) canards..........................?

The time period is certainly about right because IIRC, the J-8 is a mid - late 60s design?

Certainly be quite impressive in 1/48 - using the Trumpeter kit.
Just a thought

[Go4fun]

As long as it is British and not Chineese. The world saw how their missles tests went. And a Chineese long range bomber in the 1980s would have been scarey!

[albeback]

As long as it is British and not Chineese. The world saw how their missles tests went. And a Chineese long range bomber in the 1980s would have been scarey!

No worries! There won't be a HINT of Chinese-ness about it!! As the J8 is  probably not well known generally, I suspect a lot of folk that see it will be none the wiser anyway!

[Weaver]

Indeed - I've got one and I've been thinking about similar things, though I havn't come to any definite plans yet.

Technically, the J-8I was a Chinese "copy" of the MiG Ye-152, which was essentially a scaled-up Mig-21 with two engines, while the J-8II is a J-8I with a radar nose and side intakes owing something to MiG-23 technology. The engines are therefore pure turbojets, more akin to Avons than Speys, although if you were feeling adventurous, you might be able to enlarge them to handle the Spey's much greater mass flow.

If you fitted a J-8II with a larger, tailless delta wing, and a less "Miggy" tail fin, you could plausibly pass it off as a Fairey Delta project, somewhere between the productionised FD.2 (single Gyron) and FD.3 (twin Olympus + 2 seats).

[Go4fun]

*Digs out the popcorn and iced tea* This should be interesting.

[RussC]

As a matter of scratchbuilding, the Trumpeter J8 II in 1/144 was a good start for a Su-15 TM and the Entex Mig 23 "Flipper" (kit of a Ye-152) was the way to get a Su-15 A in hummingbird scale.

[albeback]

Indeed - I've got one and I've been thinking about similar things, though I havn't come to any definite plans yet.

Technically, the J-8I was a Chinese "copy" of the MiG Ye-152, which was essentially a scaled-up Mig-21 with two engines, while the J-8II is a J-8I with a radar nose and side intakes owing something to MiG-23 technology. The engines are therefore pure turbojets, more akin to Avons than Speys, although if you were feeling adventurous, you might be able to enlarge them to handle the Spey's much greater mass flow.

If you fitted a J-8II with a larger, tailless delta wing, and a less "Miggy" tail fin, you could plausibly pass it off as a Fairey Delta project, somewhere between the productionised FD.2 (single Gyron) and FD.3 (twin Olympus + 2 seats).

Lol!! I'm not feeling THAT adventurous!! I think I'll stick to the twin Avons!!. I'm fundamentally lazy and, I prefer a project that doesn't involve TOO much effort!! Add to that, wouldn't the Spey require larger intakes as well - as in the Phantom?  Be a while before I get round to it . Got a couple of other whifs to tackle first!