When they cancelled the TSR.2...take 2...

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Devilfish

Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2016, 06:30:45 PM


With 20/20 hindsight, it would have been better to have them next to the fuselage, in a similar manner to the Scimitar or Buccaneer, on both the Meteor and the Canberra (test pilot Bill Bedford advocated this for the Meteor but he was ignored),

As did Bill Waterton, Gloster's chief test pilot.  But then again, he recommended a lot of things, but apparently he was "just a pilot" and didn't know as much about aircraft as the designers (none of who were pilots, or would fly in their own designs)

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2016, 06:30:45 PM

(test pilot Bill Bedford advocated this for the Meteor but he was ignored),


Then it would have been a CF-100.  ;D

Damn good idea for a Whiff though, and even better with a Canberra!  :thumbsup:

The main gear would have to retract outwards to be sensible, not impossible though.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: Devilfish on April 27, 2016, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2016, 06:30:45 PM


With 20/20 hindsight, it would have been better to have them next to the fuselage, in a similar manner to the Scimitar or Buccaneer, on both the Meteor and the Canberra (test pilot Bill Bedford advocated this for the Meteor but he was ignored),

As did Bill Waterton, Gloster's chief test pilot.  But then again, he recommended a lot of things, but apparently he was "just a pilot" and didn't know as much about aircraft as the designers (none of who were pilots, or would fly in their own designs)


Sorry, my bad - I meant Bill Waterton, not Bill Bedford.
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Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 28, 2016, 04:25:52 AM
Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2016, 06:30:45 PM

(test pilot Bill Bedford advocated this for the Meteor but he was ignored),


Then it would have been a CF-100.  ;D

Damn good idea for a Whiff though, and even better with a Canberra!  :thumbsup:

The main gear would have to retract outwards to be sensible, not impossible though.

Plenty of room in the outer wings: Martin managed to squeeze 4 x 20mm cannons in there after all.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on April 28, 2016, 05:29:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 28, 2016, 04:25:52 AM
Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2016, 06:30:45 PM

(test pilot Bill Bedford advocated this for the Meteor but he was ignored),


Then it would have been a CF-100.  ;D

Damn good idea for a Whiff though, and even better with a Canberra!  :thumbsup:

The main gear would have to retract outwards to be sensible, not impossible though.

Plenty of room in the outer wings: Martin managed to squeeze 4 x 20mm cannons in there after all.

;D I've got a B-57 kit by my side right now...............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Flyer on February 05, 2017, 07:35:26 AM

My first thought about that Meteor comment was it would look like a small rounded off CF-100, and I really like that idea. It has been added to my "idea's and inspiration" file for future use when I come across a Meteor or two. :thumbsup:


See my post #16.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Flyer on February 05, 2017, 08:22:20 AM

It was your post I quoted! ;D


Ah, so it was. I just read Weaver's preamble, sorry.

Are you going to try the 'CF-100-ised Meteor' then?

I may be tempted to do the same with a Canberra, it end up looking like a smaller, Western, Tu-16 perhaps.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit