Drone versus manned aircraft test

Rheged · June 05, 2020, 07:25:20 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52933958

The future might be creeping up on fighter pilots.

PR19_Kit · June 05, 2020, 07:34:27 AM

The techno world can't even get autonomous vehicles to work properly in two dimensions so far.

Doing it in three dimensions would seem to be a tad optimistic to my mind.

rickshaw · June 05, 2020, 07:46:24 PM

The USAF carried out experiments way back in the 1970s of UAVs versus manned aircrafts. The UAVs invariably won. They would turn harder and faster than the manned aircraft. Of course, they were firebees controlled from the ground rather than autonomous aircraft controlled by onboard AIs. Time though will tell. Maybe not this generation but the next?

zenrat · June 05, 2020, 08:04:50 PM

A return to pre-electronics aircraft plus the development of EMP weapons would seem to be the answer to drones...

kitbasher · June 06, 2020, 02:33:37 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 05, 2020, 07:34:27 AM
The techno world can't even get autonomous vehicles to work properly in two dimensions so far.

Doing it in three dimensions would seem to be a tad optimistic to my mind.

Oh they're getting there, just not as quickly as the arch proponents thought/think. Some fundamental issues still need to be sorted out, the day will come.

Spey_Phantom · June 06, 2020, 02:48:42 AM

sounds more like the storyline of Ace Combat 7, pilots vs drones.

PR19_Kit · June 06, 2020, 04:34:36 AM

It won't matter in the aerial combat field, but I see the major problem with autonomous cars, trucks and buses will be the insurance issues.

What happens when one autonomous car hits another one? The insurance companies won't be able to apply their usual 'blame shifting' agreements because there will be no-one to shift the blame onto. Will they be able to sue an ECU, or its programmer? No chance!

jcf · June 07, 2020, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: zenrat on June 05, 2020, 08:04:50 PM
A return to pre-electronics aircraft plus the development of EMP weapons would seem to be the answer to drones...

Back to the '20s and early '30s then?

zenrat · June 08, 2020, 04:31:33 AM

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on June 07, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: zenrat on June 05, 2020, 08:04:50 PM
A return to pre-electronics aircraft plus the development of EMP weapons would seem to be the answer to drones...

Back to the '20s and early '30s then?

Maybe later. Are pre solid state electronics safe from EMP? ISTR reading about Soviet interceptors with valve radios so as to be able to operate after a nuclear blast.

PR19_Kit · June 08, 2020, 05:00:49 AM

Quote from: zenrat on June 08, 2020, 04:31:33 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on June 07, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: zenrat on June 05, 2020, 08:04:50 PM
A return to pre-electronics aircraft plus the development of EMP weapons would seem to be the answer to drones...

Back to the '20s and early '30s then?

Maybe later. Are pre solid state electronics safe from EMP? ISTR reading about Soviet interceptors with valve radios so as to be able to operate after a nuclear blast.

IIRC that's exactly the case.