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HMS Invincible recovered

Started by Nick, December 12, 2019, 01:03:41 AM

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Nick

No, not the 1977 'through deck cruiser', the 1747 sailing ship-of-the-line. It seems to be the season for finding or recovering sunken wrecks!

Invincible was launched by the French Navy in 1744, captured by the Royal Navy at Cape Finisterre in 1747, taken into British service and wrecked on a sandbank in the Solent in 1758.
In 2013 the wreck was placed on English Heritage's list of ten most at risk heritage sites due to parts of the ship being exposed by changing seabed levels.
This year parts of the Invincible were recovered for preservation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-dorset-50747903/revolutionary-18th-century-naval-ship-to-go-on-display-in-poole

Rheged

When I saw the title, I assumed this was the battlecruiser built in 1907 and sunk at Jutland............ but it's an interesting item. Thanks for posting it!
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NARSES2

It's certainly interesting that it was the capture of this ship that made the Admiralty realise how far behind the French they were in "modern" warship design.

I'm always slightly amazed by just how many captured ships there were in the Royal Navy of the 18th and early 19th centuries.
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NARSES2

Quote from: Rheged on December 12, 2019, 04:13:09 AM
When I saw the title, I assumed this was the battlecruiser built in 1907 and sunk at Jutland

I wonder at what depth the wreck (or wrecks) lies ? Given the advances in mini submersible technology it might make a good t.v. series. Exploring the Jutland wrecks ? After all surely they have totally exhausted the poor old Titanic by now ?  ;)
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kitnut617

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 12, 2019, 06:10:06 AM
It's certainly interesting that it was the capture of this ship that made the Admiralty realise how far behind the French they were in "modern" warship design.

I'm always slightly amazed by just how many captured ships there were in the Royal Navy of the 18th and early 19th centuries.

What also interesting is that the RN was able to capture these 'advanced' designs with what they had ----
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Nick

Quote from: kitnut617 on December 12, 2019, 06:40:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 12, 2019, 06:10:06 AM
It's certainly interesting that it was the capture of this ship that made the Admiralty realise how far behind the French they were in "modern" warship design.

I'm always slightly amazed by just how many captured ships there were in the Royal Navy of the 18th and early 19th centuries.

What also interesting is that the RN was able to capture these 'advanced' designs with what they had ----

It's not about the size of the ship in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the ship...

NARSES2

Quote from: Nick on December 12, 2019, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on December 12, 2019, 06:40:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 12, 2019, 06:10:06 AM
It's certainly interesting that it was the capture of this ship that made the Admiralty realise how far behind the French they were in "modern" warship design.

I'm always slightly amazed by just how many captured ships there were in the Royal Navy of the 18th and early 19th centuries.

What also interesting is that the RN was able to capture these 'advanced' designs with what they had ----

It's not about the size of the ship in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the ship...

Better tactics, better gunnery, greater latitude given to junior officers (as long as they won) and the fact that the R.N. started off as a bunch of pirates in Elizabethan times and never quite lost that ethos  :rolleyes:
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Captain Canada

That's pretty cool. Makes me want to dive into some history on YouTube and learn more of the era. Cheers !
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Quote from: Nick on December 12, 2019, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on December 12, 2019, 06:40:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 12, 2019, 06:10:06 AM
It's certainly interesting that it was the capture of this ship that made the Admiralty realise how far behind the French they were in "modern" warship design.

I'm always slightly amazed by just how many captured ships there were in the Royal Navy of the 18th and early 19th centuries.

What also interesting is that the RN was able to capture these 'advanced' designs with what they had ----

It's not about the size of the ship in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the ship...
Battle of Samar was a perfect example of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdcvDiA3lE
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