Another Road Not Travelled - Royal Navy FAA Decides to stay with Sea Hurricanes

[Beermonster58]

A Griffon powered Hurricane, with contra-props maybe?

And 4 cannon of course..............

Haven't read through all the posts so, apologies if I'm repeating anything. I've been mulling over the idea of a kit bash involving the Airfix  Spitfire XIX or F.22. Fitting the Griffon engine to a Hurricane IIC. I think a cut down rear fuselage might be feasible also so, I could use the Spitfire fin and canopy.

Basically exactly what I'm planning on doing monster mate   
Damn near word for word   
If you want to build this to then bud it'd be great having 2 of these beauties turning up ...im already trying to hunt down some contra props in 48th for mine 

I was planning to do mine in 1/72 but, I have the remains of an Airfix Seafire 47 (complete fuselage with contra prop!) so, I could concievably do a 1/48 model but, not really my preferred scale. Also, i/72 is less of a financial loss if I screw up!   . If I was going to do a contra prop version in 1/72, I'd use the spare props from an old Revell (Ex FROG) Shackleton that I've dismantled for other projects.

Go for 72nd matey ..work the scale ya work 
My main scale is 48th ..age..knackered hands and so on 
I'm going to use the Spitfires wings on this build and modify the landing gear lay out ..probably use the Hurricanes landing gear modded to fit the Spits wing but have the gear fold inwards so I end up with a wide track set instead of the narrow Spits .
Using the entire cockpit canopy from the Spitfire aswell and I'll cut that out of the Spits fuselage and graft that to the Hurricanes upper fuselage..seriously thinking about one suggestion made here about a full metal rear fuselage too..it make sense to me really 😀
Think I'll keep the tail cause if it use a Spitfire one it will end up being more Spitfire than Hurricane 😆

I'd agree the wide track u/c  like the Hurricane is a must. May I make a suggestion here if you are going to use the Spitfire wings? Carefully remove a section (including the wheel aperture ) from the lower wing parts. Turn them by 180 degrees, put the left wheel bit into the right wing and, vice versa and, swap the u/c legs over and, you have a wide track, inward retracting undercarriage. You'll probably have to do a bit of scratchbuilding for the "revised" interiors but, that's pretty straightforward.

[Wardukw]

A Griffon powered Hurricane, with contra-props maybe?

And 4 cannon of course..............

Haven't read through all the posts so, apologies if I'm repeating anything. I've been mulling over the idea of a kit bash involving the Airfix  Spitfire XIX or F.22. Fitting the Griffon engine to a Hurricane IIC. I think a cut down rear fuselage might be feasible also so, I could use the Spitfire fin and canopy.

Basically exactly what I'm planning on doing monster mate   
Damn near word for word   
If you want to build this to then bud it'd be great having 2 of these beauties turning up ...im already trying to hunt down some contra props in 48th for mine 

I was planning to do mine in 1/72 but, I have the remains of an Airfix Seafire 47 (complete fuselage with contra prop!) so, I could concievably do a 1/48 model but, not really my preferred scale. Also, i/72 is less of a financial loss if I screw up!   . If I was going to do a contra prop version in 1/72, I'd use the spare props from an old Revell (Ex FROG) Shackleton that I've dismantled for other projects.

Go for 72nd matey ..work the scale ya work 
My main scale is 48th ..age..knackered hands and so on 
I'm going to use the Spitfires wings on this build and modify the landing gear lay out ..probably use the Hurricanes landing gear modded to fit the Spits wing but have the gear fold inwards so I end up with a wide track set instead of the narrow Spits .
Using the entire cockpit canopy from the Spitfire aswell and I'll cut that out of the Spits fuselage and graft that to the Hurricanes upper fuselage..seriously thinking about one suggestion made here about a full metal rear fuselage too..it make sense to me really 😀
Think I'll keep the tail cause if it use a Spitfire one it will end up being more Spitfire than Hurricane 😆

I'd agree the wide track u/c  like the Hurricane is a must. May I make a suggestion here if you are going to use the Spitfire wings? Carefully remove a section (including the wheel aperture ) from the lower wing parts. Turn them by 180 degrees, put the left wheel bit into the right wing and, vice versa and, swap the u/c legs over and, you have a wide track, inward retracting undercarriage. You'll probably have to do a bit of scratchbuilding for the "revised" interiors but, that's pretty straightforward.

Matey that's exactly what I'm gonna do     
But I'm going to use the openings from the Hurricane wings and graft them into the Spitfires wing ..like ya said I'll have to scratch build the wheel wells ..that's a given that is .
The landing gear will fold inwards into the Spitfire fuselage and I've gotta make sure their spaced accordingly so their not to far apart ...but 😉
Hmmm ..ideas I'm a havin again ...will just have to see how much space I have to play with .

[Weaver]

The Hurricane's outer wing panels bolted on just outboard of the wheel wells, folding the wings there would
make it too tall, the wingspan is only one foot less than a Corsair, which would mean a second hinge point
would be required. This would most logically be just outboard of the gunbays, but it would probably be more
sensible to just have the wings fold at that point. It means that the folded aircraft wouldn't be as narrow as
other types, but it would be the fastest mod to make and probably the most structurally sound.

Is there any reason why you couldn't give it a fold-back wing like the Fulmar or a twist-and-fold-back wing like the Firefly? That would get around the height problem without having a second hinge, although it would make the first hinge more complicated.

The Sea Fury had a simple wing fold, wasn't too tall, and it's span was only 1'8" less than the Hurricane. It's fold was outboard of the gun bays, which were narrower than the Hurricane's because they were designed for 2x20mm cannon from the start. My guess is that the Hurricane's fold being further outboard would compensate nicely for the increased span.

[perttime]

The Seafire 47 wing fold is just outboard of the guns. There's certainly enough space for undercarriage inboard of the guns.

[Beermonster58]

A Griffon powered Hurricane, with contra-props maybe?

And 4 cannon of course..............

Haven't read through all the posts so, apologies if I'm repeating anything. I've been mulling over the idea of a kit bash involving the Airfix  Spitfire XIX or F.22. Fitting the Griffon engine to a Hurricane IIC. I think a cut down rear fuselage might be feasible also so, I could use the Spitfire fin and canopy.

Basically exactly what I'm planning on doing monster mate   
Damn near word for word   
If you want to build this to then bud it'd be great having 2 of these beauties turning up ...im already trying to hunt down some contra props in 48th for mine 

I was planning to do mine in 1/72 but, I have the remains of an Airfix Seafire 47 (complete fuselage with contra prop!) so, I could concievably do a 1/48 model but, not really my preferred scale. Also, i/72 is less of a financial loss if I screw up!   . If I was going to do a contra prop version in 1/72, I'd use the spare props from an old Revell (Ex FROG) Shackleton that I've dismantled for other projects.

Go for 72nd matey ..work the scale ya work 
My main scale is 48th ..age..knackered hands and so on 
I'm going to use the Spitfires wings on this build and modify the landing gear lay out ..probably use the Hurricanes landing gear modded to fit the Spits wing but have the gear fold inwards so I end up with a wide track set instead of the narrow Spits .
Using the entire cockpit canopy from the Spitfire aswell and I'll cut that out of the Spits fuselage and graft that to the Hurricanes upper fuselage..seriously thinking about one suggestion made here about a full metal rear fuselage too..it make sense to me really 😀
Think I'll keep the tail cause if it use a Spitfire one it will end up being more Spitfire than Hurricane 😆

I'd agree the wide track u/c  like the Hurricane is a must. May I make a suggestion here if you are going to use the Spitfire wings? Carefully remove a section (including the wheel aperture ) from the lower wing parts. Turn them by 180 degrees, put the left wheel bit into the right wing and, vice versa and, swap the u/c legs over and, you have a wide track, inward retracting undercarriage. You'll probably have to do a bit of scratchbuilding for the "revised" interiors but, that's pretty straightforward.

Matey that's exactly what I'm gonna do     
But I'm going to use the openings from the Hurricane wings and graft them into the Spitfires wing ..like ya said I'll have to scratch build the wheel wells ..that's a given that is .
The landing gear will fold inwards into the Spitfire fuselage and I've gotta make sure their spaced accordingly so their not to far apart ...but 😉
Hmmm ..ideas I'm a havin again ...will just have to see how much space I have to play with .

  Actually never occurred to me to use parts from the Hurricane wings like that but, I was going to use the Hurricane wings on my kit bash anyway. I know there have been comments about the Hurricane wings hindering performance etc but, I see mine more as a Typhoon equivalent as in, the the Typhoon was never produced because of the improved Hurricane .

[Wardukw]

A Griffon powered Hurricane, with contra-props maybe?

And 4 cannon of course..............

Haven't read through all the posts so, apologies if I'm repeating anything. I've been mulling over the idea of a kit bash involving the Airfix  Spitfire XIX or F.22. Fitting the Griffon engine to a Hurricane IIC. I think a cut down rear fuselage might be feasible also so, I could use the Spitfire fin and canopy.

Basically exactly what I'm planning on doing monster mate   
Damn near word for word 
If you want to build this to then bud it'd be great having 2 of these beauties turning up ...im already trying to hunt down some contra props in 48th for mine 

I was planning to do mine in 1/72 but, I have the remains of an Airfix Seafire 47 (complete fuselage with contra prop!) so, I could concievably do a 1/48 model but, not really my preferred scale. Also, i/72 is less of a financial loss if I screw up!   . If I was going to do a contra prop version in 1/72, I'd use the spare props from an old Revell (Ex FROG) Shackleton that I've dismantled for other projects.

Go for 72nd matey ..work the scale ya work 
My main scale is 48th ..age..knackered hands and so on 
I'm going to use the Spitfires wings on this build and modify the landing gear lay out ..probably use the Hurricanes landing gear modded to fit the Spits wing but have the gear fold inwards so I end up with a wide track set instead of the narrow Spits .
Using the entire cockpit canopy from the Spitfire aswell and I'll cut that out of the Spits fuselage and graft that to the Hurricanes upper fuselage..seriously thinking about one suggestion made here about a full metal rear fuselage too..it make sense to me really 😀
Think I'll keep the tail cause if it use a Spitfire one it will end up being more Spitfire than Hurricane 😆

I'd agree the wide track u/c  like the Hurricane is a must. May I make a suggestion here if you are going to use the Spitfire wings? Carefully remove a section (including the wheel aperture ) from the lower wing parts. Turn them by 180 degrees, put the left wheel bit into the right wing and, vice versa and, swap the u/c legs over and, you have a wide track, inward retracting undercarriage. You'll probably have to do a bit of scratchbuilding for the "revised" interiors but, that's pretty straightforward.

Matey that's exactly what I'm gonna do     
But I'm going to use the openings from the Hurricane wings and graft them into the Spitfires wing ..like ya said I'll have to scratch build the wheel wells ..that's a given that is .
The landing gear will fold inwards into the Spitfire fuselage and I've gotta make sure their spaced accordingly so their not to far apart ...but 😉
Hmmm ..ideas I'm a havin again ...will just have to see how much space I have to play with .

  Actually never occurred to me to use parts from the Hurricane wings like that but, I was going to use the Hurricane wings on my kit bash anyway. I know there have been comments about the Hurricane wings hindering performance etc but, I see mine more as a Typhoon equivalent as in, the the Typhoon was never produced because of the improved Hurricane .

I'm only using the Hurricanes lower wing as I scored 2 of em in one deal..a Mk1 and Mk2 ..both Hasegawa and with resin bits 
I like your idea..a tougher Hurricane..more power and performance 💪...im going for a more figther based design so we are both gonna build something different but the same   
I'm gonna enjoy this I think 🤔 😄

[jcf]

Wingfold systems along the lines of the Fulmar, Barracuda was similar, or the Firefly pretty much
have to be designed into the wing from the get go. Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

The Grumman Wildcat is possibly the only example of adding a skewed hinge wing fold system to an existing design without having to majorly redesign the wing. Not having to deal with landing gear in the wing was an advantage.

[PR19_Kit]

Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

But we can do this in WhiffWorld.

The viewers can only see OUTSIDE of the wing, and we tell them what's inside.

[Old Wombat]

Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

But we can do this WhiffWorld.

The viewers can only see OUTSIDE of the wing, and we tell them what's inside.

Unless someone wants to go completely bonkers & actually design & build the conversion, & show the wings folded.

[PR19_Kit]

Unless someone wants to go completely bonkers & actually design & build the conversion, & show the wings folded.

Please don't remind me, doing that radial engined, turreted Barracuda TFIV with both sorts of wings almost drove me to drink! 

[NARSES2]

Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

But we can do this WhiffWorld.

The viewers can only see OUTSIDE of the wing, and we tell them what's inside.

Unless someone wants to go completely bonkers & actually design & build the conversion, & show the wings folded.

Build it in 1/32 and make them workable    Sainthood will be bestowed 

[Wardukw]

Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

But we can do this WhiffWorld.

The viewers can only see OUTSIDE of the wing, and we tell them what's inside.

Unless someone wants to go completely bonkers & actually design & build the conversion, & show the wings folded.

Build it in 1/32 and make them workable    Sainthood will be bestowed 

   

[Rheged]

Applying it to the Hurricane would require redesign
of the wing structure.

But we can do this WhiffWorld.

The viewers can only see OUTSIDE of the wing, and we tell them what's inside.

Unless someone wants to go completely bonkers & actually design & build the conversion, & show the wings folded.

Build it in 1/32 and make them workable    Sainthood will be bestowed 

The possibility also exists that all sorts of award medals will be pinned to your straitjacket!

[NARSES2]

Build it in 1/32 and make them workable    Sainthood will be bestowed 

The possibility also exists that all sorts of award medals will be pinned to your straitjacket!