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DONE @p.5 +++ HAL Samudree Baaj (Sea Hawk) Mk. 201, Indian Navy

Started by Dizzyfugu, March 20, 2021, 09:21:36 AM

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DogfighterZen

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Vlamgat

Missed this. It's perfect - i have wanted to do this in 1/48 but it's too expensive getting all the bits together. Well done!

Gondor

Quote from: Vlamgat on May 15, 2021, 10:31:02 AM
Missed this. It's perfect - i have wanted to do this in 1/48 but it's too expensive getting all the bits together. Well done!

HobbyBoss do a Hawk 200 in 1/48 and Kinetic do a T-45 Goshawk

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

AndrewF

Fantastic. It looks great, and the photos are top notch as usual!

SPINNERS

Congratulations on an excellent build and brilliant backdrop photo's.

silverwindblade

This is a brilliant idea, and an excellent execution. Looks almost natural and like something that 'should be' rather than a 'what-if'. I love the single-seat Hawk 200 as it is, and navalizing it is a great step too.
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Nick

Quote from: Gondor on March 23, 2021, 02:30:10 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on March 23, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
I assume that - like the Matchbox Hawk 200 - the kit was designed during the real aircraft's early stages. The Italeri Goshawk might represent a T-45A, but not a later, updated C.
And the wings have AFAIK the same span, just the area is a little bigger through the different shape. But the stablizers should have a bigger span (at least with the squared tips).

Italeri were also probably saveing money altering as little as possible or as little as they could get away with. This would be a good kit for an update set from a friendly manufacturer or maybe just a complete new build by a large scale manufacturer.

Gondor

*EDIT: Just found out that Wolfpack do a T-45C based on the Italeri T-45 in 1/72*

I realise I'm a little late to this build thread and I have to say it looks great.

A few years back I built Italeri's T-45 Goshawk and Hawk T.Mk 1 kits up to the point of putting the first coat of primer on. I cannot tell the difference between the models. For all intents and purposes they are the same (T-45) moulds which is a shame as they are very different aircraft in detail.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-186-hawk-tmk-1-51-66--128853
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-173-t-45-goshawk-mc-donnell-douglas--122442

Gondor

Quote from: Nick on May 27, 2021, 01:34:32 AM

I realise I'm a little late to this build thread and I have to say it looks great.

A few years back I built Italeri's T-45 Goshawk and Hawk T.Mk 1 kits up to the point of putting the first coat of primer on. I cannot tell the difference between the models. For all intents and purposes they are the same (T-45) moulds which is a shame as they are very different aircraft in detail.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-186-hawk-tmk-1-51-66--128853
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-173-t-45-goshawk-mc-donnell-douglas--122442

The difference between Italeri's Hawk T.1 and T-45 are the airbrakes and the nosewheel area and the nose undercarriage. The Hawk T.1 has a single airbrake on the underside of the rear fuselage. The T-45 has airbrakes on the sides or the rear fuselage and a hook underneath the fuselage. In the nose area, the undercarriage bay is longer and the fuselage is a bit deeper too. The nose undercarriage leg for the T-45 looks like a small version of an F-18 nose leg, complete with twin wheels.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Dizzyfugu

The T-45 also has a beefed-up and wider main landing gear - the wells are further apart from each other, and the Italeri kit reflects this.

Nick

Quote from: Gondor on May 27, 2021, 03:30:47 AM
Quote from: Nick on May 27, 2021, 01:34:32 AM

I realise I'm a little late to this build thread and I have to say it looks great.

A few years back I built Italeri's T-45 Goshawk and Hawk T.Mk 1 kits up to the point of putting the first coat of primer on. I cannot tell the difference between the models. For all intents and purposes they are the same (T-45) moulds which is a shame as they are very different aircraft in detail.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-186-hawk-tmk-1-51-66--128853
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-173-t-45-goshawk-mc-donnell-douglas--122442

The difference between Italeri's Hawk T.1 and T-45 are the airbrakes and the nosewheel area and the nose undercarriage. The Hawk T.1 has a single airbrake on the underside of the rear fuselage. The T-45 has airbrakes on the sides or the rear fuselage and a hook underneath the fuselage. In the nose area, the undercarriage bay is longer and the fuselage is a bit deeper too. The nose undercarriage leg for the T-45 looks like a small version of an F-18 nose leg, complete with twin wheels.

Gondor

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on May 27, 2021, 04:38:07 AM
The T-45 also has a beefed-up and wider main landing gear - the wells are further apart from each other, and the Italeri kit reflects this.

Thanks chaps! I've had a closer look under a bright light and I can see which is which now.

The T.1 has a socking great gunpack on the centreline and much larger ventral strakes than the T-45 which also has a big tailhook - bit of a clue there!