UK only. Mr Muscle oven cleaner

The Wooksta! · July 28, 2023, 02:46:44 PM

Well, not quite.

Was looking in Home Bargains a few days back looking for a cheap can of the aforementioned. Didn't find any but I did get a can of another product, called Dr Magic.
Works just as good as Mr Muscle, although you need a tad more, but bearing in mind there's 390ml in a can, as opposed to just 300ml in a Mr Muscle can, it's not so bad.
The real clincher is the price - 99p. Yes, 99p, and Mr Muscle is 4 quid a can.

Definitely works on enamels, can't speak for acrylics as I haven't tried it on those yet.

Heartily recommended, for the price alone!

kitbasher · July 28, 2023, 03:06:04 PM

Top tip, Lee, tvm.

Beermonster58 · July 28, 2023, 11:33:26 PM

I find myself somewhat bemused by the prospect of using such toxic, corrosive and caustic chemicals on a model. But, for those who choose to do so, would Mr Muscle sink unblocker not be equally useful? It's just as nasty ( i e it does its job very well!

) and, is often available as a special buy in Aldi at about £6 - £7 for two x 1 litre bottles.

perttime · July 29, 2023, 01:27:17 AM

I'm pretty sure oven cleaners are different from sink unblockers.

... but have no idea what its use on a model is.

Steel Penguin · July 29, 2023, 01:33:16 AM

depends on the active ingredients, one of the big ones will be NaOH, / Caustic soda .
Serious hat mode on... and that stuff will eat flesh down to the bone, Please be careful when using, and dispose of all waste responsibly. Serious hat mode off

I know i say it every time it comes around on this topic, but i rate it as that important.
Also be very wary of using on white metal or etch, as it will corrode them equily as well.

Beermonster58 · July 29, 2023, 02:34:47 AM

Quote from: perttime on July 29, 2023, 01:27:17 AMI'm pretty sure oven cleaners are different from sink unblockers.

... but have no idea what its use on a model is.

Well, I believe it's used for removing paint. I'm still not sure why anybody would go to such lengths when surely a light sanding/polishing will provide a nice,smooth finish for the new coat. Or, one could simply buy another model? However, as I'm never going to use the stuff other than for its intended purpose, I won't presume to dictate to others. As I understand, the main , active ingredient in BOTH cleaners is Sodium Hydroxide ( a k a Caustic Soda). I'm happy to stand corrected though. It's nasty stuff and, as Steel Penguin says, will cause equally nasty chemical burns if not handled very carefully

The Wooksta! · July 29, 2023, 04:23:40 AM

It depends on various reasons. You may to retain surface detail, or the paint is particularly thick. Or it could something pre built and painted one has acquired - I've salvaged quite a few this way. Or the model doesn't meet one's current standard.

Yes, you could buy another kit, but given current prices are going through the roof (when old tool Airfix Hunters are more expensive than new 2005 tool Revell kits, you know something is wrong!), sometime a can of paint stripper and a repaint is a cheaper option.

Given Dr Magic is less than a quid a can (how much is Modelstrip these days?), certainly seems like value for money to me.

Dizzyfugu · July 30, 2023, 05:35:29 AM

(Foamed) Oven cleaner is soda-based (like denture cleaner) and it creeps under EVERYTHING. The warning on the cans that it is not to be applioed on ANY lacquered surface is not for nothing. It's pretty mild, though, and application might take days if not weeks to work thorugh/under old crusts of enamel, oil paint of acrylics: But it does not affect plastic and can even be used safely on clear parts. Highly recommended!

perttime · July 30, 2023, 06:02:55 AM

At the local supermarket, I saw 4 kinds of oven cleaners. One said there's NaOH in it, the others listed different kinds of tensides.

kerick · July 30, 2023, 07:11:00 AM

I found that without the NaOH oven cleaner doesn't work for me. I've used brake cleaner pretty well or simple green degreaser. Less chance of injury or other problems.

The Wooksta! · July 30, 2023, 09:39:49 AM

You pays yer money,yet takes yer choice.

Doesn't like xtracolour. Needs repeated blasts.

Beermonster58 · July 31, 2023, 11:57:37 PM

Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 29, 2023, 04:23:40 AMIt depends on various reasons. You may to retain surface detail, or the paint is particularly thick. Or it could something pre built and painted one has acquired - I've salvaged quite a few this way. Or the model doesn't meet one's current standard.

Yes, you could buy another kit, but given current prices are going through the roof (when old tool Airfix Hunters are more expensive than new 2005 tool Revell kits, you know something is wrong!), sometime a can of paint stripper and a repaint is a cheaper option.

Given Dr Magic is less than a quid a can (how much is Modelstrip these days?), certainly seems like value for money to me.

All reasonable points. Horses for courses I guess. If it works for you, that's all that really matters.