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Anyone built the Mistercraft UH-1N Twin Huey?

Started by Weaver, August 08, 2024, 10:49:48 PM

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Weaver

Just want to pick the hive-mind here...

Has anyone built the Mistercraft UH-1N Twin Huey in any of it's various boxings, and if so, what did you think of it?

I ask because Mistercraft have a... variable reputation for quality and obviously it's not going to be as good as the (hard to find) Revell Twin Huey, but on the other hand it does have some unique features, such as optional short and long noses and the roof radar and Sea-Killer Mk.2 missiles from the Italian Navy AB-212 version.
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Weaver

Quote from: kitbasher on August 09, 2024, 12:01:49 AM'Variable' 😂😂😂

Well it depends who they borrowed the moulds off. Their ex-KP Convair Pogo is a perfectly good kit, for example.
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kitbasher

Quote from: Weaver on August 09, 2024, 12:41:45 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 09, 2024, 12:01:49 AM'Variable' 😂😂😂

Well it depends who they borrowed the moulds off. Their ex-KP Convair Pogo is a perfectly good kit, for example.

Oh I know it's mould-dependent, H, I was amused by the sense of understatement.

Their Harrier range.  Well.....don't.
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Dizzyfugu

I have the earlier Italian Navy incarnation of that kit in my stash, and it is ...crude. Even though Scalemates does not offer more information about it sorigins I am certain that this is an Intech mold, because the finish and design is, for instance, similar to the Fw 190D or the Mustang.

Weaver

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Hah! As luck would have it, somebody's just started posting a build of one on Britmodeller:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235143439-what-have-i-let-myself-in-for-a-mistercraft-uh-1n-%E2%80%98desert-huey%E2%80%99/

So far ir's going... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

It's a shame if it turns out to be a dog, because the concept of the kit is attractive: it's been engineered in such a way that you can build single or twin-engined, short or long-nosed versions, all from the same sprues, which would give some interesting whiffy possibilities.
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Thorvic

https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/AB-212-European-Forces.html?start_p=0#section_similar

You can see the kit sprues, and it a dog, get the Italeri or Fujimi iy you want  212 or 412, the parts are so crude you cant really use it to add fiiting to a decent kit
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Weaver

Quote from: Thorvic on August 09, 2024, 01:57:26 PMhttps://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/AB-212-European-Forces.html?start_p=0#section_similar

You can see the kit sprues, and it a dog, get the Italeri or Fujimi iy you want  212 or 412, the parts are so crude you cant really use it to add fiiting to a decent kit

I've got a Revell one, which I understand to be a rebox of the Italeri one. It has both the twin and four-bladed rotors in the box, but I'm not sure about all the rotor head bits (wouldn't make much sense if they weren't though). It'd be very difficult to build a short-nosed one from it though. The original intention was to nick the four-bladed rotor to put on a Sea Cobra, but that's not a whiff any more. I have another plan for it, but it'd be nice if it more visibly represented an alternative path to the four-bladed version.
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Mossie

May the four blade unit on an earlier UH-1? I've often wondered about a Westland built Huey - the Anglo French helicopter was still born so Westland partnered with Bell to build an improved Huey using ideas that would otherwise have been used on the Lynx.
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Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on August 10, 2024, 02:21:08 AMMay the four blade unit on an earlier UH-1? I've often wondered about a Westland built Huey - the Anglo French helicopter was still born so Westland partnered with Bell to build an improved Huey using ideas that would otherwise have been used on the Lynx.

The earlier Huey is single-engined though: I want twin-engines and four blades, but preferably the earlier nose.

You idea is similar to mine, except mine revolves around an invented company who's history parallels and reflects Westland's. Westland have their deal with Sikorsky, mine has a similar deal with Bell.
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kitbasher

Bristol's helicopter interests not merged into Westland, perhaps?
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Mossie

Quote from: Weaver on August 10, 2024, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mossie on August 10, 2024, 02:21:08 AMMay the four blade unit on an earlier UH-1? I've often wondered about a Westland built Huey - the Anglo French helicopter was still born so Westland partnered with Bell to build an improved Huey using ideas that would otherwise have been used on the Lynx.

The earlier Huey is single-engined though: I want twin-engines and four blades, but preferably the earlier nose.

You idea is similar to mine, except mine revolves around an invented company who's history parallels and reflects Westland's. Westland have their deal with Sikorsky, mine has a similar deal with Bell.

My thoughts were to have two RR Gems like the Lynx.  Two turbomeca astazous are also a possibility, maybe licence built and available in various power outputs?
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Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on August 10, 2024, 08:47:39 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 10, 2024, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mossie on August 10, 2024, 02:21:08 AMMay the four blade unit on an earlier UH-1? I've often wondered about a Westland built Huey - the Anglo French helicopter was still born so Westland partnered with Bell to build an improved Huey using ideas that would otherwise have been used on the Lynx.

The earlier Huey is single-engined though: I want twin-engines and four blades, but preferably the earlier nose.

You idea is similar to mine, except mine revolves around an invented company who's history parallels and reflects Westland's. Westland have their deal with Sikorsky, mine has a similar deal with Bell.

My thoughts were to have two RR Gems like the Lynx.  Two turbomeca astazous are also a possibility, maybe licence built and available in various power outputs?

The PT-6T Twin-Pac used in the Twin Hueys has a combining gearbox as part of the engine pack (a bit like a Gannet) with a single output shaft that drives into the main rotor gearbox. This allowed them to use the same basic rotor gearbox design as the single Hueys. To fit a pair of different engines, you'd have to either do the same, or completely redesign the main rotor gearbox to take two power inputs.
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