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Inland aircraft carrier found on "X"

Started by Weaver, October 29, 2024, 04:51:28 PM

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Weaver

This isn't a What-If so much as a perfectly timed photo+photoshop, but it's still inspirational for post-apocalypse/dieselpunk what-ifs:

Posted by Think Defence here: https://x.com/thinkdefence/status/1851368501404946710
Think Defence is an excellent account and well worth following. Doesn't just do Twitter ("X" :rolleyes:), he also has a website where he posts long-form content: https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/

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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

Old Wombat

A tractor-powered stern-drive paddle-wheeler barge/ferry launching an An-2 ...  :unsure:

Well, at least you wouldn't need the cat (as depicted) to launch the Colt, just run the tractor up to full speed, rev up the Shvetsov ASh-62IR & you're away! ;)
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kerick

#2
A barge driven by a paddle wheel powered by a tractor carrying an AN-2 about to launch?!!
 What's not to love!!!

We seem to think alike.... Oh God....
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zenrat

Shades of the Smokers Meat Chopper barge in Waterworld.
Good pic. :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

That's going to need some SERIOUS flaps, and a good set of JATO bottles too!

Talk about a ZELL launch!  :o
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
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Weaver

#5
You could probably do that sort of thing for real with one of those Piper Cub bush planes that can land on a sixpence. "Just" get the barge up to full speed, fly alongside it, then sideslip over the deck and plonk it down, a bit like a helicopter landing on a warship. Not saying it'd be remotely safe, but it might be possible. Alternatively, design the barge so that it can be driven astern as the same speed it goes forwards, then land on it straight over the bow. Fit a turntable for turning the plane round for relaunch.

The An-2's stall speed is only 27kts, so if the barge can generate 10kts of wind-over-deck, you only have to give it another 17kts of airspeed to get it airborne. That seems doable with the kind of gunpowder/compressed air/flywheel catapult seen on non-carrier warships. By way of rough comparison, the very first catapult ever trialled in 1912 was 30 ft long and achieved an end-speed of 39kts, admittedly with an early aircraft that weighed very little.

If you're cobbling a catapult together from scrap, then a flywheel type seems most within the capabilities of ordinary auto/ship mechanics, as it needs neither a source of gunpowder, nor high-pressure precision cylinders & pistons. You could probably make it using something like a pair of truck clutches: one to connect the drive engine to the flywheel and one to connect the flywheel to the cable drum.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Nick

Some of the small ferries in Scotland have turntable ramps which could be adapted for aircraft launch. Or trail it off the back like the barge in the FAA collection (aka the world's oldest aircraft carrier).

I've been on the Glenelg Ferry to Skye which has been done the same way for 60 years. The only manual operated turntable. https://skyeferry.co.uk/

PR19_Kit

The old Severn Ferries, the Severn Queen & Severn Princess, which closed when they opened the Old Severn Bridge, had turntables too. The crews had the loading down to a fine art and as you drove onto the turntable from the beam of the ferry they'd swivel it round so you'd shoot off into the next clear space on the deck, all without you slowing down!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Spey_Phantom

im following them now  ;D

kinda makes me wish i found that Revell paddle steamer from a few years back, would make a nice aircraft carrier with some Po-2's or I-16's on it  :rolleyes:
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Weaver

Quote from: Spey_Phantom on October 30, 2024, 11:02:13 AMim following them now  ;D

kinda makes me wish i found that Revell paddle steamer from a few years back, would make a nice aircraft carrier with some Po-2's or I-16's on it  :rolleyes:

And now I'm following you. Follow me back if you like ( @hws5mp ): I retweet loads of good defence/aircraft accounts.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

kerick

That Colt is about the same green as the Mohawk chopper. Hmmmm.....
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise