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Scorpion Family

Started by Aircav, December 06, 2011, 11:47:20 PM

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Weaver

Stormer options graphic from 1982, posted on Twitter by Think Defence here:
https://twitter.com/thinkdefence/status/1584463125708828672?s=20&t=nsqdtlz2WYN_8ogxCy9pNA



The 'Air Defence' variant with what looks like a recoilless rifle has drawn some comment. I suspect it's a generic placeholder for a single-tube MANPADS like RBS-70 or Javelin.
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Nick

The Assault Gun looks like a Fox turret with a larger cannon. Practically a Scorpion.

The Low Profile 75mm looks even meaner, I guess it's an artillery gun.

Mossie

Some of these went under the name Sagitar.  I posted in reply #15 but they've been photobucketed:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/alvis-sagiter.3947/#post-31041

ARES 75mm gun
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90mm Cockerill Mk.III gun
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76mm L23A1 gun (Scorpion) with twin TOW launcher
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Rick Lowe

Quote from: Gondor on May 29, 2022, 04:12:39 AMI remember the Old Airfix Magazine, A5 size one, haveing a scratch build article on building the Fox. 1970 something

Gondor

Yeah - part of a series on building British Army vehicles at the time. Others were Stalwart, FV432, Humber Pig.
I still have that particular issue, and still intend to use it as a source of plans/ideas to build one, one day... I hasten to add I won't be building it out of 20 thou per the article, but hopefully adapting something else to make life easier.

Mossie

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Quote from: Nick on October 24, 2022, 10:52:44 AMThe Assault Gun looks like a Fox turret with a larger cannon. Practically a Scorpion.

The Low Profile 75mm looks even meaner, I guess it's an artillery gun.

More on the 75mm gun on Secret Projects:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/ares-xm274-75mm-automatic-cannon.37720/

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The low profile Sagitar should be quite easily bashable from two Scorpions, I've got two Airfix kits, but they're lost in the chaos that's my garage.
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Nick

One of the first kits I recall building was the Airfix Scorpion. Fiddly even for a 10yo and the rubber tracks just would not stick together.

I saw one of those kits at the last Brampton show and they wanted £18 for it  :o

I still have an Action Man Scorpion but that's a bit big at 1/6 scale. Have to admit it'd look good done up with working tracks and an all new turret but it's not on my to-do list.

NARSES2

Quote from: Nick on October 25, 2022, 06:57:40 AMOne of the first kits I recall building was the Airfix Scorpion. Fiddly even for a 10yo and the rubber tracks just would not stick together.


I used to get my mum to sew them together when I was a nipper.
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ysi_maniac

I love ARES 75mm gun :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
Thanks for posting! :thumbsup:
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Mossie

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Mossie

Some proposed Stormer variants:
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Stormer 30 prototype.  Ajax, eat your heart out.
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Gondor

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Have a look at the Scorpion 2 and then the image top right...... very similar

Gondor

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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Mossie

Yes, Scorpion 2 was built on an updated Spartan superstructure.  The Stormer is effectively a stretched Spartan.  I've got an AFV Club Scimitar on the go and it might be supplemented with a Gecko Models Scimitar 2.

Going off topic slightly, whiff wise it might worth considering what turrets to drop on APCs.  Most of them have at one time or other.
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Weaver

Small batches of those Stormer APCs actually got built for Malaysia and Indonesia.

The 25 Malaysian ones had Helio FVT-series one-man turrets, 13 with two 7.62mm MGs and 12 with a 20mm cannon and a 7.62mm MG.
Some of the 40 Indonesian ones had pintle-mounted 0.50 cal M2HBs: I don't know if there were any other variants.




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 - Indiana Jones

NARSES2

Stormer 30 looks good in that 4 colour camouflage scheme.
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