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F-107's

Started by elmayerle, September 16, 2004, 12:23:00 AM

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elmayerle

No hurry, Tophe.  I'm getting back to work after missing over a week and I rather expect this week to be more than a little busy.
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Tophe

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Quotewhat information does he have/has he found?  I'd definitely be interested in seeing it, Tophe.
My friend wrote me: <<The source is :  Air International :January 1993. Article: "Fury - the Navy's Sabre" page 44.>>
From my friend Paul, here is the mention of the very special Sabre/Fury FJ-5, from the great magazine Air International. A Sabre (not Super-Sabre?) with the F-107 nose & air intake ? That would be great ! What-if one of us try to build it (in plastic) ? Dear Elmayerle ? :)
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

elmayerle

Actually, Tophe, I've already started gathering the bits I'll need since I do have a couple pics of the FJ-5 display model courtesy of my friend who wrote the Ginter book on the F-107.  It uses a J57 and a plain inlet, ala' F-100 but in the F-107 location< and the wing tips are rounded like most of the NAA-Columbus designs.  The fun part will be blending a vac-form F-107 with a Hasegawa F-100D.
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Daryl J.

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Mossie

Looking through the Ginter volume on the F-107 I found reference to two versions that I haven't been able to find any more info on:

RF-107A  It was planned to build two of the originally proposed nine protoypes with a recce fit.  It was first proposed to equip the recce version with J67 engines, eventually the decision was made to equip both types with the J75.  I guess the requirement was canned when the RF-105 was cancelled?
F-107B    Air Defence Command liked the F-107 and in March 1957 expressed interest in a fighter version with snap-out rocket pods in place of the 20mm cannon.

No drawings or details I'm afraid, anybody else have any info?
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ReccePhreak

Quote from: Mossie on August 05, 2013, 08:08:43 AM
Looking through the Ginter volume on the F-107 I found reference to two versions that I haven't been able to find any more info on:

RF-107A  It was planned to build two of the originally proposed nine protoypes with a recce fit.  It was first proposed to equip the recce version with J67 engines, eventually the decision was made to equip both types with the J75.  I guess the requirement was canned when the RF-105 was cancelled?

No drawings or details I'm afraid, anybody else have any info?
If drawings or more details on the proposed recce fit surfaced, I would then have to buy one of the Trumpy F-107 kits.  :thumbsup:

Larry

tahsin

I am looking for a F-107 thread or a model that appeared here back in January of this year. I had saved it but had a crash. Was possibly a two-seater in SEA camouflage.

Gondor

Try looking at the Whiffies for last year or maybe the year before. I am sure it was nominated for one of those years and there should be a link to the build with the nomination.

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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Wasn't it one of JayBee's creations?
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NARSES2

Yes it was one of Jim's. The link is here http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23090.0.html unfortunately it was posted so long ago (that scared me I thought it was 2 years at the most  :blink:) the way we hold/show pictures has changed and they are no longer there.
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tahsin

Thanks for the answers. I had also checked the thread linked which had been mentioned. The thing might have been from a different site as well.

KJ_Lesnick

My view of the F-107 is kind of mixed,

Pro's

  • The F-107 weighed less than the F-105 on similar engine power
  • The F-107's wing-loading was heavy enough for low-altitude, high-speed operation, but was lighter than the F-105's and had a higher aspect-ratio to boot.
  • The F-107's wings had a near full-span flap, which would better affect the lifting characteristics when deflected
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Con's

  • It had a smaller overall payload to the F-105
  • While I'm pretty sure it would be able to out-turn the F-101, the F-104, and the F-4 for the most part: It would likely lose in a turning-fight against the F-102, F-106, and MiG-21 above 20,000 feet, and against the F-8 (except possibly) below 10,000-15,000 feet to max-q.
  • The aircraft would be defeated on the vertical by the F-104, and F-4, possibly the F-101B.
  • The design represented much of the problems that the USAF's philosophy on tactical bombers: They either bloated them up into medium-bombers, or used fighter-bombers.
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

jcf

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F-107 ZELL, free pdf by Tony Landis:

F-107 ZELL