Dec 17th

Ollie · December 23, 2003, 11:27:04 AM

Actually Joe, the legend is called "La chasse-galerie". Maudite is because the poor lumbermans would be damned if they didn't return in time to the camp. Before taking off, they made a pact with the JMN Chief of Staff, Satan, to this effect.

Nick · December 30, 2003, 11:09:30 AM

I've just seen this jet-powered Wright Flyer in an ad for General Electric, takes a little while to download but I reckonm it's worth it!
Jet Wright Flyer

Nick B)

Captain Canada · December 30, 2003, 12:13:57 PM

Geez....all I get are funny letters and boxes...just like the video rc crashes !

WTF ! Psshhht.........over !

John Howling Mouse · December 31, 2003, 06:22:21 PM

Oh, Nick, that is priceless----thanks for sharing.
Must be Alec Baldwin doing the narration and The Man In Black singing the background.
Todd, you HAVE to see this! Are you just left-clicking on the link/URL and it's not working?
Try right-clicking on Nick's URL and selecting "Save Target As" instead and view it later.

You HAVE to see this!! I'll e-mail it to you at home if need be.

Tophe · December 31, 2003, 09:46:05 PM

It works for me. Thanks Nick, this is very funny, and completely unexpected. If smile is spreading in this cruel World, it is just wonderful, and our What-if way to love aircraft maybe will be respected someday...

Glenn · January 06, 2004, 06:29:50 PM

Back around 16th December, here is OZ, they showed a TV doco on this group of Americans, (Yanks) who re-built a Wright B, and got it flying. Well, 'one flight does not take it to an airshow', as it crashed after an engine problem. Anyhow, when the model kit was released back in the 1970's, I bought one and made it but then, in the '90's I bought another. My idea then, was to make a 'B', and now, (with the help of the videotape) I can.
I can hear you'll saying, "WHY?" Well, back in the Mexican war, the US Army used a Wright B, in their Signal Corp. As far as I can remember, from the article, it was the first 'armed' Flying Machine in the U.S. Army. With the pilot sitting on the Left, and the 'gunner' to his right, armed with a Lewis Gun, I thought this would make a memorable model. I'd have to re do the tailplane, (as it's a lot bigger than the Flyer) and mounted infront of the rudders,work on the engine, it's bigger, add the seats, modify the brothers themselves for the crew, and add the two sets of wheels, and scratch up a 1/39th sc. Lewis gun. Nothing is impossible!

Tophe · January 06, 2004, 08:05:30 PM

I try to understand, see picture http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~culick/jpg-wri...right-flyer.jpg
The Flyer biplane had lateral pusher propellers and a foreplane, a far bigger foreplane on the miliatary one, you said, Lyn. So... the gunner had a propeller on the rear, a foreplane in front, a wing above, a wing below... firing in what direction ? Well, probably that was just a preliminary try, before improving in aircraft design - our dear Elmayerle was not born in 1903, so nobody to guide our forefathers... (joke, with much respect to our favourite engineer)...

Captain Canada · January 06, 2004, 08:18:48 PM

QuoteOh, Nick, that is priceless----thanks for sharing.
Must be Alec Baldwin doing the narration and The Man In Black singing the background.
Todd, you HAVE to see this! Are you just left-clicking on the link/URL and it's not working?
Try right-clicking on Nick's URL and selecting "Save Target As" instead and view it later.

You HAVE to see this!! I'll e-mail it to you at home if need be.

Hey.........that worked ! Thanks bud !

Who knew !?!

elmayerle · January 06, 2004, 09:24:14 PM

QuoteI try to understand, see picture http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~culick/jpg-wri...right-flyer.jpg
The Flyer biplane had lateral pusher propellers and a foreplane, a far bigger foreplane on the miliatary one, you said, Lyn. So... the gunner had a propeller on the rear, a foreplane in front, a wing above, a wing below... firing in what direction ? Well, probably that was just a preliminary try, before improving in aircraft design - our dear Elmayerle was not born in 1903, so nobody to guide our forefathers... (joke, with much respect to our favourite engineer)...

*laughs uproariously*

I have to assume that fairly sharply down and to one side is about the only way the gunner could fire.

Glenn · January 08, 2004, 06:53:05 PM

Tophe,
Think of the 'B' as a conventional aircraft set up. The tailplane is at the back, infront of the rudders, the skid in shortened (as there is no longer a canard) the engines are still 'pushers', and the wheels are just under the leading edge of the wing. The gunners position was in front of the engine. The firing area, from the 'Horn' to the leading edge of the starboard wing.
I don't think many shots would have been fired, the sound and sight of the machine would surely have frightened Pancho Villa's horses.

Dec 17th

Ollie