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Porco Rosso alternatives using existing kits

Started by Daryl J., August 21, 2009, 10:50:20 PM

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Daryl J.

Hayao Miyazaki's animation movie has several holes in its time frame leaving possibilities for additional aircraft to be used.   The final frames (deleted from the release in the USA) show a turboprop Savoia passing a French Caravelle as Porco Cavorts around the sky enjoying his retirement years showing the author's interest in a continued, behind the scenes story line.

Porco's first Savoia:   Convert wing to unswept cloth wing and vertical tail shape to something similar to the SPAD XII/XIII.   Engine is an exposed air cooled flat 6 cyl.  Either scale Fine Molds S.21 Early kit could be used.

Fio Piccolo's Grumman:   Lindberg's OA-9 kit, wing converted to a cloth wing, redone radials, redone windscreen, round side windows for an ultra early version.  After she grows up and takes over Piccolo Aircraft, the kit could get over wing jets and a swept tail to accompany her jet powered butterfly tailed Republic SeaBee.  Small side windows to handle pressurization.

Gina's Fishing Trip aircraft:   Classic Airframe's Walrus with a fishing deck installed along with powered trolling mounts.

Pirates:   After cleaning up their act they could get an Airfix Sunderland with additional side mount machine guns for their service in the Mediterranean Air Security Patrol, turboprops of course.

jcf

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Hi Daryl, on the Grumman G-21 Goose the wing aft of main spar was originally fabric covered.



Make Porco's S.21 resemble the real S.21? ;)



Just as a BTW, successful horizontally opposed air-cooled aircraft engines are actually a phenomenon of the mid-to-late 1930s,
there were earlier concepts but most were not pursued. Air-cooled inline or V engines (upright or inverted) were more common.
Even the ubiquitous Liberty V-12 was built in an inverted air-cooled variant.

The Walrus would be good candidate for a Pemberton Billing slip-wing flying boat conversion.
PB's concept was that the wings could be shed from the flying boat and the 'hull' would motor off as a boat.
Particularly apt for the Walrus as PB founded Supermarine.  ;D

BTW the name Supermarine was coined as the antonym of Submarine.

Napier Nomad two-stroke turbo-compound diesels would be cool to power a large post-WWII flying boat.

Jon

Daryl J.

What's the size of the diesel engines?    Could they be mounted back to back for a pushme/pullyou arrangement without being overly long?    The Roden Felixstowe F.2A, of course, comes to mind.   



Daryl J.

jcf

Quote from: Daryl J. on August 22, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
What's the size of the diesel engines?    Could they be mounted back to back for a pushme/pullyou arrangement without being overly long?    The Roden Felixstowe F.2A, of course, comes to mind.   



Daryl J.

Sorry Daryl, that should have said post-WWII, the Nomad was a late 40s design.

That said the Junkers Jumo diesels were used on several aircraft, including in tandem arrangements on
the Do-18 and Do-26.
The Jumo 204 diesel was actually license built in Britain as the Napier Culverin, and Rolls-Royce
built a diesel version of their Condor V-12. The first airplane diesel (as opposed to airship diesel)
was a Packard design. Note that these were all late 1920s and 1930s engines.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Duxford/Aviat.htm

Curtiss converted an F-5L (Curtiss built Felixstowe F-5 with Liberty engines) to a push-pull layout in 1919,
the purpose was to test the tandem engine installation for potential use on the big NC boats.
The NC-4 (the first airplane to fly across the Atlantic) had its two centre engines mounted in tandem.

Jon

jcf

Pemberton Billing (Supermarine) P.B. 7 'Flying Lifeboat'.

The Walrus would definitely be a candidate for a similar treatment.

Jon

NARSES2

I was just reading about that the other day, serendipity or what
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pyro-manic

What about one of the big Blackburn boats, or a Supermarine Southampton?

http://www.msacomputer.com/FlyingBoats-old/Blackburn-General/Blackburn-General.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Southampton

Green Dragon did a Stranraer for his Floaty Things GB entry, which turned out great.
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