RoG weapons

[AeroplaneDriver]

Yeah, but all serious modelers know that Hasegawa's 1/72 Lightning F.6 is miles ahead of the new one from Revell.   

[B777LR]

I really don't see RoG as being aimed at kids. 

Quite a few toy/kiddie shops sell Revell kits. I think they aim quite alot at kids.

[kitnut617]

The trouble with weapon sets is that you usually need two or three of them to do one aircraft as the bomb or missile you are looking for only has only one in the set and I'm thinking of Hasegawa here, I know I've thought about this in the past and I don't mind having to buy another Eurofighter or Tornado (more for the Wif pile) as long as Revell keep their prices the same as they are now and as for 50's weapons, with all the new British stuff coming out now that slot should be filled, there's some nice weapons in the Trumpeter Wyvern and you get a boat load in their Wellington too.

I agree with Aircav,  I needed some weapons for one of my models, I had to buy four boxes of the Hase weapons set just to do it, I've now got a ton of other weapons left over which I don't think I'll ever use    I think if a company is going to specialise and make weapons sets they should have more sets with multiple amounts of fewer types in them.  This way to make a full load-out for an F-15E for instance, where you need 12 500lbers you wouldn't have to buy two boxes of bombs that only have six of the bombs each, on a B-52 I needed four boxes and that was just for the wing pylons, I need another 84 bombs now for my planned B-52D 'Big Belly'

[Hobbes]

I'm assuming "different market segment" means ubermodellers to go with the uberkits?  Whilst SOME of Hasegawa's stuff is very good, I really don't see RoG as being aimed at kids.  The Typhoon is a prime example of a good kit that would easily line up against Hasegawa's best.  I'd also mention their He-177 in that analogy as well, and either kit are 1/3 or 1/2 the price of their opponent's examples and of a certainly different take instead of the standard fare pumped out by Hasegawa.

I only meant 'aimed at kids' in the sense that Revell kits tend to be affordable, and they're complete. Kids aren't going to buy € 25 worth of accessories so they can complete their €15 kit.  I agree that Revell's turning out some pretty good kits these days.
Also, as B777 says, over here Revell's the only kit company you'll come across in toy shops.
They also design their kits so there's a range of options from easy (snap-tite) to advanced, and they label their boxes accordingly. I don't see Hasegawa doing that.

[Maverick]

I only meant 'aimed at kids' in the sense that Revell kits tend to be affordable, and they're complete. Kids aren't going to buy € 25 worth of accessories so they can complete their €15 kit.  I agree that Revell's turning out some pretty good kits these days.
Also, as B777 says, over here Revell's the only kit company you'll come across in toy shops.
They also design their kits so there's a range of options from easy (snap-tite) to advanced, and they label their boxes accordingly. I don't see Hasegawa doing that.

So I guess that means Revell are offering variety and attempting to entice youngers towards our hobby?  Quite admirable in my book. 

As for who stocks what, here in Australia Hasegawa shares the shelves with Revell on those toy stores who stock kits at all.  Many stores tend to look on the entire hobby as 'toy' related.

Maverick

[Brian da Basher]

I'm a huge Revell fan. I've been seriously impressed by many of their 1/72 scale offerings. Take their SE-5 for example. It compares very well against the Roden kit and is less expensive. Revell also has an incredibly diverse catalog too. There's something for just about everyone in it and at prices that don't make my wallet weep.

As for weapons, well I just save all the bombs and rockets I can. My main area of interest can get by with some really generic weapons.

Brian da Basher

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

I'm with most of the comments here.... RoG weaps are simply excellent - although as NARSES pointed out, they are almost 100% current and those of us who also build models (Real and What If), from other eras do feel a wee bit left-out.

Dunno what RoG have lined-up in the near future as a 'new' WWII or Post War kit but wouldn't it be great to have a sprue full of 40's and 50's era NATO/European weaps - like Tamiya did with their superb Skyraiders !

Ian

[B777LR]

I'm with most of the comments here.... RoG weaps are simply excellent - although as NARSES pointed out, they are almost 100% current and those of us who also build models (Real and What If), from other eras do feel a wee bit left-out.

Dunno what RoG have lined-up in the near future as a 'new' WWII or Post War kit but wouldn't it be great to have a sprue full of 40's and 50's era NATO/European weaps - like Tamiya did with their superb Skyraiders !

Ian

Huh? For 1950s bombs = Airfix B-29, or any F-4/A-4/A-6 kit with bombs.
For 1950s rockets = Airfix Hunter, Italeri A-4.
For 1950s missiles = Do you really need where to look for a sidewinder?

What you really need, is a set full of JDAMs!  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng3HPrea90k

Runs for cover underneath a rock...



PS: LGBs are SO yesterday

[Maverick]

Trip7,

1950s eras bombs wouldn't be available from F-4, A-4 or A-6 kits.  All of these aircraft routinely carried Mk 80 series LDGPs in all their derivatives and the closest you'd get to anything older would be the woeful M117s that came with the early Airfix F-4B/E boxing.  Even then, the M117 was a Vietnam era weapon.  The only 50s stores I can think of are those with the Airfix & Fujimi A-1 Skyraiders as I believe the Hase offering is more for the late A-1H/J variant.

Regards,

Mav

[NARSES2]

What I really want is some weaponary from the period 1914/1945. Yes there is some available in kits - Italeri P47 is a good source for US stuff - but there is a lack of accurate British type bombs etc. You can get them in resin but as an example of the cost I bought some "Omega" bombs from Lonewulf and Adrian was so shocked by what was included for the price he sent me two boxes at no extra cost !

Good example of both the daft value offered and how good a trader Lonewulf is - he's still in the UK by the way, house in France fell through.

For some early 50's US weaponary the SIGA sets for the Mauler are available. Take some cleaning up but look ok'ish to me

Chris

[kitnut617]

Check out some of Belcher Bits stuff:  http://www.belcherbits.com/
And Pavla have some interesting items:  http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?CATEGORY=&DIVISION=&MANUFACTURER=Pavla+Models&CODE=&TYPE=&SCALE=1%3A72&KEYWORD=bombs&NUMPERPAGE=25&order%5B%5D=arrived+desc&order%5B%5D=code+asc

[AeroplaneDriver]

Yeah, but all serious modelers know that Hasegawa's 1/72 Lightning F.6 is miles ahead of the new one from Revell.   

Really?  When it's THE SAME BLOODY KIT!  The only difference are the decals, a bigger box and a £5 price hike for the priviledge.

OOPS!  Forgot to turn the sarcasm beacon on!!

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

Yeah, but all serious modelers know that Hasegawa's 1/72 Lightning F.6 is miles ahead of the new one from Revell.   

Really?  When it's THE SAME BLOODY KIT!  The only difference are the decals, a bigger box and a £5 price hike for the priviledge.

OOPS!  Forgot to turn the sarcasm beacon on!!

It's OK, Nick, I understood you !!

Ian

[Jeffry Fontaine]

For those folks that are looking for WWII/Korea/(early) Vietnam era USAF/USN/USMC ordnance in 1/48th scale the weapons set from Accurate Miniatures is ideal.  Granted the smaller bombs are a bit void of details but the larger bombs are excellent representations of the ordnance you need for aircraft of that era.  Also included with the Accurate Miniatures set is a Mk.XIII aircraft torpedo and numerous depth bombs. 

Other 1/48th scale weapons with a reasonale price are offered under the True Details line from Squadron.  Some of these were previously available for twice the price under the KMC product name until Squadron purchased the molds from KMC.  These things are deifinitely cheaper here in the states than across the pond.  My only beef with the True Details products is that the box fin assembly is usually broken into one or more pieces thanks to the rough handling these things apparently receive during the packaging and shipping process. 

It is unfortunate that there is no reasonably priced RAF/RN ordnance available.  Most of what I have obtained was through purchase of one model kit or another and that only adds more kits to your stash.  Which is not a very practical approach to sourcing your parts but sometimes it is justified when you consider the cost of a kit against the cost of the aftermarket product you are seeking, it can actually be cheaper to purchase the model instead of the resin when you consider cost of shipping and minimum purchase requirements that some mail order/on-line concession demand before filling your order.