Ideas needed for a Hawker Henneway

[Mossie]

With the Skyray, I'd say you don't have to do much, if anything.  The Fords wings take Hawkers ogival tip shape to an extreme & the triangular intakes are in line with Hawkers early jets.  Change the canopy to something less framey & if you really want to, blunt the nose a bit to take out the radar.  The undercarriage is very 'American', some chage there would be good, especially if you wanted a land based bird.  Maybe drill some cannon ports in the nose.  Apart from that, if you want to just re-paint it & call it 'Hawker', that would work.

Paint job wise, I'd do it in the standard British A pattern with two colours over a single underside colour.  Have a look at Hunter schemes & customers.  If you're going for a naval bird, EDSG over White or some variation of would suit it.  Maybe EDSG & Sky, which looks quite good on Dutch aircraft.

[Weaver]

Since I've got a couple of Airfix Seahawks, I waved some plastic around for you, without much success, unfortunately.

Here's an Airfix Seahawk with it's wing tacked on:



Note that the inboard wing, with the intake, exhaust and undercarriage is a seperate piece (good) but that the break between the ineer and outer wing is OUTBOARD of the point where the leading edge sweep changes (bad). This means that if you do a simple wingectomy, you end up with a kink in the leading edge.

This is the same Seahawk with a Gnat wing tacked over it:



Note that a chunk of the Seahawk;s inner wing has to be cut off to get the Gnat's wing in this position. However, the real fly in the ointment is thickness: the Gnat wing is WAY thinner than the Seahawks, to the point where you'd at the very least have to do a load of sanding to get the Seahawk's to blend, and at worst, you might run
out of plastic trying.

Other things I've tried:

Starfix Alphajet (which is nothing like a real Alphajet): fits almost the same as the Gnat wing and is suitably thick, but the root chord is a bit shorter, which means you'd have to start adapting the inboard trailing edge.

Sabre: WAY too big.

G.91: root chord too short.

Grumman Tiger: too thin and root chord too long.

BAe Hawk (i.e. the trainer): would probably fit, but has so little sweep it's probably not worth it.

Going for something with a longer root chord is possible because you can always stretch the fuselage (hence my Skyhawk idea), but going for a shorter root chord makes things very awkward....

[Mossie]

You could make an angled cut into the Hawks wing to give more sweep, although I think it may be a bit too thin?

How about an early MiG jet, MiG-15/17/19?

[philp]

Thanks for the assist guys.  This is very helpful.

I was wondering about a Cougar wing with the Sea Hawk.

Ok, trying to think of things for the Skyray if I go that route.  Using some of Mossie's suggestions, was trying to figure what canopy to use, what landing gear and if I should change the shape of the tail.  Pulled up some 3-views of both planes and suddenly wondered what a Hunter would look like with the Skyray wings? Got to see if I can dig my kits out of the stash and try that zany idea.

As for markings, RN or RAF are possible but if I go the Sea Hawk way, Dutch, Indian or Luftwaffe.
Dutch is already one of the possibilities for the Skyray if it doesn't get modified but am still looking for KOM Marine markings for my S-3 Viking so...

[philp]

Ok, finally pulled out the Skyray and Hunter.  Was thinking of mounting the Skyray wings on the Hunter fuselage but forgot that the kit comes with the wings moled top and bottom to which you attach the nose and exhaust.
Still...



And without the flash, it looks like this...



So I am now thinking of cutting the nose off the Hunter and mounting it to the Ford's wings.  Probably take the tail and exhaust also and landing gear (but maybe use the Skyray's locations).  Think I can get away without using the stabilizers.  If this pans out, definitely got to be British but still debating on RN or RAF.  Course, that may be decided by lack of RN decals but have to review the stash for sure.

So, while I am still interested in that swept winged Seahawk, I think I have found the Henneway's layout.

Any other helpful hints?

[van883]

Here's one I started a year ago then shelved! Airfix Hunter fuselage and Tamiya Skyray wings and tail. And LOTS of filler. Will be RAF when I get back from my holidays. It won't be called a Henneway though.

Van

[philp]

I hate it when I finally have a good idea and someone else has beaten me to it.

So, while my take is slightly different it will still look a lot like what you have already got going.
Maybe I need to go back to the Seahawk.

[van883]

The more the merrier I say-why not go ahead with yours? Great minds think alike...

Van

[philp]

Van,
Thanks for the encouragement.  I probably will go ahead with this one.  Just wish I had an Airfix Hunter to use instead of the Revell kit.  But it is more detailed so maybe the end product will look better.  I usually can use all the help I can get

Thinking about cutting off the trailerons at the back of the wing and maybe using the stabs.  Wish I could manipulate some scale drawings with different configurations so I had a better idea before cutting plastic.

So you are going RAF on yours.  Which camo and squadron you thinking?

[van883]

So you are going RAF on yours.  Which camo and squadron you thinking?

No idea. I won't be touching it for a few weeks.

cheers

Van

[NARSES2]

Great minds think alike  This looks really interesting