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Sagdeyev Sag-3 'Biram'

Started by kitbasher, December 20, 2009, 01:19:01 PM

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John Howling Mouse

Has to be one of the most realistic/believable whifs I've ever seen.  Very well done.
Styrene in my blood and an impressive void in my cranium.

Tophe

Very nice model, pleasant and even beautiful... :wub: :thumbsup:
Uh, I have a book (Herbert Leonard author) about Russian WW2 fighters somewhere, this could be useful to see the differences between your model and the Lavochkin with in-line engine, or will you tell us those differences? :huh:
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

sequoiaranger

...a LOT!

Good concoction!
My mind is like a compost heap: both "fertile" and "rotten"!

Taiidantomcat

"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.

kitbasher

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Thanks again, all, for extremely generous comments about the 'Biram'.

Quote from: Tophe on December 27, 2009, 08:05:33 PM
Uh, I have a book (Herbert Leonard author) about Russian WW2 fighters somewhere, this could be useful to see the differences between your model and the Lavochkin with in-line engine, or will you tell us those differences? :huh:
I'm not that well up on the early LaGG fighters (the -1 and the -3, I guess), and there was certainly no inspiration from that quarter.  I had a leftover Airfix Kittyhawk fuselage (minus engine) that I wanted to do something with.  
Earlier in the year I bought a built Airfix Il-2 at a model show with the aim of anglicising it - it's still my intention to create a 'Boulton-Paul Barbarian' ground-attack aircraft from it (Sabre engine, Defiant style turret, underwing rockets, D-Day stripes), and maybe that will come next year (ie, 2010).  Therefore off came the Il-2 nose and the 'Biram' had a powerplant.
Wings were problematic, until I remembered a pair of CMK Spitfire F22 wings in the spares box.  For those not familiar with this kit it is a clone of the second version of the Pegasus Spitfire F22/24 and not to be confused with the CMR kit of the same mark.  I had planned some years ago to whif a KP Spit IX using said wings plus Griffon engine as a 'What If' alternative to the Spiteful (Spiteful-type fuselage/tail plus Spit 22/24 wings).  This involved switching the main u/c to widen the track (as on the Spiteful) in exactly the same way that Nils has used on his He-70 torpedo bomber whif in the Navalise It! GB.  That whif was abandoned, although the fuselage will be used in another project that I hope will come to fruition in 2010.  The wing tips were rounded off to look less 'Spitfire-like' - I thought that would be more 'Soviet' than squaring off the wing tips.
I think it is the engine that gives the 'Biram' its Soviet appearance - it was only when I'd initially thrown the parts together and photographed it that I realised that it looked not unlike the box-art on the Revell Mig-3.
So that in a nutshell is the build history.  No photos of the build, I'm afraid; I'd intended to take the model to Telford as a completed item and that was going to be it!
Happy New Year!!   ;D ;D
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
On the go: Beaumaris/Battle/Bronco/Barracuda/F-105(UK)/Flatning/Hellcat IV/Hunter PR11/Hurricane IIb/Ice Cream Tank/JP T4/Jumo MiG-15/M21/P1103 (early)/P1154-ish/Phantom FG1/I-153/Sea Hawk T7/Spitfire XII/Spitfire Tr18/Twin Otter/FrankenCOIN/Frankenfighter

Tophe

Wonderful build history, as thrilling and fascinating as a prototype history... ;D
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

sequoiaranger

>Earlier in the year I bought a built Airfix Il-2 at a model show with the aim of anglicising it - it's still my intention to create a 'Boulton-Paul Barbarian' ground-attack aircraft from it (Sabre engine, Defiant style turret, underwing rockets, D-Day stripes), and maybe that will come next year (ie, 2010).<

I like the idea--the "Defiant" was a dud as a true fighter, but as with many "obsolescent" fighters, could have become a decent ground-attack aircraft. Such is one I made by putting tank-buster cannon on a Defiant thusly:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1192

I am also planning a "Hawker Henley" British naval dive-bomber whif with a four-gun rear turret.
My mind is like a compost heap: both "fertile" and "rotten"!

GTX

Quoteand maybe that will come next year (ie, 2010).<

No, come on you can do it this year... ;D

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!