Fiat CR. 42

sequoiaranger · December 10, 2009, 07:54:20 AM

>Good idea ! But for this project one would have to kill two models --One CR. 42 and one G. 50 in 1/48! Very expensively<

I don't know any dedicated whiffer that worries about utilizing two or more kits for one model. We whiffers KNOW that the end result justifies the expense.

My "Globrey Blordiator" used EIGHTEEN different kits to borrow from. I think only a few were "dedicated" to the Blordiator; the rest were leftover parts from other whif projects. But sacrificing a "few" is OK---that's WHY I bought so many kits in the first place-- to have a styrene "mine" to dig into for whiffing gold!!

Every kit "borrowed from" means that there is a new parts source for further whiffs!!

Ed S · December 10, 2009, 01:35:58 PM

Quote from: apophenia on December 10, 2009, 12:46:41 PM

Not necessarily "kill" Hotte. Your monoplane CR.42 could be matched by a biplane G.50.

Alternatively, create a monoplane (or extreme sequiplane) CR.42 using kits parts alone.

Brilliant idea. Looks like you've been taking lessons from Tophe.

Ed

Brian da Basher · December 10, 2009, 01:57:58 PM

Quote from: apophenia on December 09, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Following the He-151 analogy ... CR.42 with G.50 wings.

Most excellent, apophenia!

Of course, I had to make a minor modification..

Brian da Basher

kitbasher · December 10, 2009, 02:24:42 PM

Quote from: apophenia on December 09, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Following the He-151 analogy ... CR.42 with G.50 wings.

Why not a G50 with spats? Looks a lot like the profile - and Brian would like it!

Hotte · December 11, 2009, 04:47:43 AM

Quote from: sequoiaranger on December 10, 2009, 07:54:20 AM
>Good idea ! But for this project one would have to kill two models --One CR. 42 and one G. 50 in 1/48! Very expensively<

I don't know any dedicated whiffer that worries about utilizing two or more kits for one model. We whiffers KNOW that the end result justifies the expense.

My "Globrey Blordiator" used EIGHTEEN different kits to borrow from. I think only a few were "dedicated" to the Blordiator; the rest were leftover parts from other whif projects. But sacrificing a "few" is OK---that's WHY I bought so many kits in the first place-- to have a styrene "mine" to dig into for whiffing gold!!

Every kit "borrowed from" means that there is a new parts source for further whiffs!!

I do not only build What if. I changes always off

And straight in 1/48 are the two Fiat fighter very expensive.
Both to sacrifice would too unfortunate be me!

Hotte

Hotte · December 11, 2009, 04:49:44 AM

Quote from: apophenia on December 10, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
Okay, a CR.42 with D.XXI wings. But (for Hotte) it could be any donor kit's wings with (for Brian) Fiat spats.

Simply only super

Hotte

Hotte · December 11, 2009, 05:27:04 AM

Or a Fiat would be komplet in silver with brazilian badges.
Similarly the Curtiss P-40.

Hotte

Brian da Basher · December 12, 2009, 02:39:56 AM

Quote from: apophenia on December 10, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
Okay, a CR.42 with D.XXI wings. But (for Hotte) it could be any donor kit's wings with (for Brian) Fiat spats.

My what lovely spats!

Brian da Basher

Radish · December 12, 2009, 04:55:19 AM

Straight Cr.42 options.......

Dutch
Spanish
Nationalist Chinese
RAF....in squadron service though, not just as a captured jobby
Swiss
Rumanian...flown by Vampires
Imperial Roman Air Force
Iran
Soviet
Finnish
Japanese
USAAC
USN

Radish · December 12, 2009, 05:22:08 AM

And Turkey, France and Israel.

elmayerle · December 12, 2009, 05:26:04 AM

Quote from: apophenia on December 11, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Weaver on December 07, 2009, 01:02:35 AM
make it more of an "ultimate biplane" by adding an enclosed cockpit and retractable u/c...

I'm liking this idea. Modelled wheels-up, it'd be a simple conversion -- just a bit of scribing for the u/c doors really. I've shown it with a fully retractable tailwheel as well (a la the CR.42 prototype) and a Ki.27 canopy (which always had a slight Italian -- Caproni Vizzola F.5?? -- look about it to me).

Hmm, take it one step farther with the DB601 installation of the CR.42DB? That'd be a seriously aesthetically appealing aircraft.

sequoiaranger · December 12, 2009, 09:25:48 AM

>Hmm, take it one step farther with the DB601 installation of the CR.42DB? That'd be a seriously aesthetically appealing aircraft.<

If you now have an enclosed cockpit, inline engine, retracting landing gear, etc......well, the Italians did that---you have a Fiat G.55!!! And Yes, it would be "a seriously aesthetically appealing aircraft."

jcf · December 13, 2009, 01:22:19 PM

Quote from: apophenia on December 12, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Sure but what if Celestino Rosatelli came up with his own Fiat 55 design?

I think they'd need to increase the wing stagger, moving the top wing forward would also improve the looks.

Or howabout giving the wings negative stagger? Producing something similar to the unbuilt Beech pursuit concept.

Jon

elmayerle · December 15, 2009, 03:01:12 AM

Quote from: sequoiaranger on December 12, 2009, 09:25:48 AM
>Hmm, take it one step farther with the DB601 installation of the CR.42DB? That'd be a seriously aesthetically appealing aircraft.<

If you now have an enclosed cockpit, inline engine, retracting landing gear, etc......well, the Italians did that---you have a Fiat G.55!!! And Yes, it would be "a seriously aesthetically appealing aircraft."

<drolly> Actually, I was thinking of something closer to a cleaned-up G.50V with an enclosed cockpit; not as clean-looking as a G.55 but still quite attractive. Actually, I think the DB601-powered CR.42 had cleaner fuselage lines, but memory may be failing me here.