Alternative uses for Naval SAMs

[rickshaw]

I wonder if there were ever any serious proposals to mount naval SAMs on land or aircraft?   I'd have thought it would have made perfect sense to do so.  I'm aware that the USN mounted Terrier on a land launcher for the USMC and it saw limited service with them.  I wonder if the RN might have done something similar with Sea Slug or Sea Dart?  I'm aware of the Seacat/Tigercat link.

[Thorvic]

Well with the British Sea Dart there was the propossed Land Dart system using containerised missiles on a quad launcher as a Bloodhound replacement.

In Chris Gibsons BSP:IV he covers the CF.299 which was an air launched derrative of the Sea Dart program and in Vulcans Hammer we have the Vulcan with an Air Search radar and 10 wing mounted fully fledged Sea Darts as a long range interceptor.

[Hobbes]

There's also the AGM-78 Standard anti-radiation missile. And the Sparrow went the other way round.

[rickshaw]

Well with the British Sea Dart there was the propossed Land Dart system using containerised missiles on a quad launcher as a Bloodhound replacement.

In Chris Gibsons BSP:IV he covers the CF.299 which was an air launched derrative of the Sea Dart program and in Vulcans Hammer we have the Vulcan with an Air Search radar and 10 wing mounted fully fledged Sea Darts as a long range interceptor.

I'd assume that an air-launched version would need to have some sort "blow-off" nose cap to cover that yawning ramjet intake?

[scooter]

There's also the AGM-78 Standard anti-radiation missile. And the Sparrow went the other way round.

I also recall, vaguely, the AF testing the SM2 on the Darts as an air to air missile

[pyro-manic]

I'd assume that an air-launched version would need to have some sort "blow-off" nose cap to cover that yawning ramjet intake?

There's no drawing, but the text (BSP4, P.44) says:

Internal carriage was preferred for CF.299 due to drag from the ramjet intake, which would otherwise require an aerodynamic fairing and attendant jettison system.

The missile itself was similar to the ship-based system, but had much larger fins with a span of 3ft 10" - this led to carriage problems with the P.1154 - the intended platform - only able to carry two. There's a nice drawing of a Sea Vixen toting four, though.

[rickshaw]

Was the CF.299 version two or single staged?

Any chance of posting that drawing?  I don't have BSP4. 

[Hobbes]

There's also the VC-10 proposal carrying 18 CF.299s.

BSP.4 isn't conclusive about it, but the drawings are of a CF.299 without booster.

(Rickshaw, check your PM re. a scan of the drawing)

[Cliffy B]

NASA has been using old Terrier and Talos SAMs for tests and other purposes for many, many years.  The USN also proposed using the nuclear versions of each for surface and land attack for many years and even built classes of ships with no guns because of that.

The USN was developing the LASM or Land Attack Standard Missile of the Standard SAM.  Money caused it to be canceled like so many other things.

They also developed a land attack version of the ASROC ASW rocket called SMARTROC.  They adapted a Mk-82 500lb bomb to the standard ASROC rocket body and it proved highly successful.  They even developed a longer range version.  It was designed to give the older Gearing-class DDs to a better fire support capability beyond their 5"/38s.  Money again...

[Joe C-P]

The Iranians adapted Hawk SAMs to be carried on F-14s, and reportedly tested Standard SAMs.

[Diamondback]

There's also the AGM-78 Standard anti-radiation missile. And the Sparrow went the other way round.

I also recall, vaguely, the AF testing the SM2 on the Darts as an air to air missile

Captive-carry only, but i also seem to recall the Six/STARM combo being proposed as an ASAT platform. I'll post something over on the F-106 forum about it and ask for help from our gang of old crewdogs and wrenchslingers.

[Thorvic]

AIM-97 Seekbat AAM based on the RIM-66 Standard missile

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-97.html

[Diamondback]

And one of my peeps, who now crew-chiefs a preserved Six at PCAM in Santa Rosa, hooked us up. Project Spike, an anti-missile program...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/spike.htm
http://www.losangeles.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-060912-028.pdf

Hope these help! I'm also working up some Tomcat and Strike Eagle WHIFs where Spike and ASAT are both reactivated by a PMC/R&D firm for expedient launch of small, expendable "need coverage RIGHT NOW" microsatellites.