Scratch Build GB - I love the smell of evergreen & putty in the morning...

[Doc Yo]

 Having been bitten by the scratching bug a few years ago, I'd certainly be interested, though I suspect
my definition is a little stricter:A build in which all major structural components are fabricated from
basic material. For a plane, I'd say you could geta away with gear and cockpit fittings, but would have
built up the fuselage and wings from sheet*. Sticking a pair of Heyford wings on a Victor fuselage is still
kitbashing. ( And you lot are lucky I don't have a Heyford in the stash at the moment.  )



*Or something. I've...used wood. Once. maybe twice. But I was much, much younger, and I didn't
   inhale.

[sotoolslinger]

Well if we are going to do this I believe we should keep it as open as possible to encourage the widest participation.
I think that everything I build is a Kitbash But some of my stuff ends up being as much putty and little detail pieces as plastic.
So we need to widen this challenge to include kitbashes and Scratch builds.
I ain't startin with a pile o wood and or evergreen and ending up with a build BUT
Is this a kitbash or a scratchbuild?
http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh50/sotoolslinger/Proto/
How about this?
http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh50/sotoolslinger/SPECTRE/
They're like 5 different airplanes in there , some Evergreen and about a pound o putty
Kitbash or scratchbuild?
Now this is a kitbash as they're actually only 2 kits in her
http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh50/sotoolslinger/Tigershark/
But it is based on actual aircraft, prototypes, and paper projects.
So is it a kitbash or a scratch?
If we are gonna do this let's keep it open to as many categories as possible

[puddingwrestler]

My personal definition requires the built to be mostly raw materials. Anything less than about 50% I'd be calling a kitbash. I'm pretty hardcore that way; I don't think you can really start off with a kit, and then add some scratch built stuff and call it a scratch build. I mean, if I take a plane, and scratch the wings, I'd still not call the whole model scratch. I'd describe it as "This is my F-14 with scratch built delta wings", not "This is my scratch built delta F-14" for instance. However, I think for GB/Challenge purposes, this'd be ellligible as all scrag; I mean, you are still scratch building, even if it's not the whole thing.

[Doc Yo]

Thanks for you input folks.

Upon reflection, I feel I no longer wish to be involved, I wish you all the best of luck with this undertaking.

regards

Duncan

Given the enthusiam you'd been showing, I think thats unfortunate. If you're dropping your interest from
a concern over conflicts, I hope you'll reconsider. As I said, my own definition is a bit stricter. But I would
never insist on that definition, nor denigrate the work of a fellow modeler because of it.

[sotoolslinger]

Thanks for you input folks.

Upon reflection, I feel I no longer wish to be involved, I wish you all the best of luck with this undertaking.

regards

Duncan

Given the enthusiam you'd been showing, I think thats unfortunate. If you're dropping your interest from
a concern over conflicts, I hope you'll reconsider. As I said, my own definition is a bit stricter. But I would
never insist on that definition, nor denigrate the work of a fellow modeler because of it.

I must agree let's do it and just keep it open to as many participants as want in. No rules as to how much of the model must be raw materials. Or we could have separate catagories for kitbash as opposed to scratchbuilds.

[puddingwrestler]

I think as long as part of the final product is scratch build, it should count. We might want to have two categories for votes; part scratch and all scratch or something, but otherwise, anything containing any scrtach building should be allowed.

[frank2056]

I agree -we should keep it as wide as possible to encourage folks who have never tried scratchbuilding to give it a try (and expand their modeling world!) Even if it's scratchbuilding part of a model with the rest straight out of the box.

[GTX]

I really want to see this one get up next year.  My thinking is that it will need a minimum of 6 months though.

I think the simplest rules would be that it is allowable if there is no kit available for what you are doing or if you are using parts of kits, then you cannot be building what they are a kit of.

An example of the last rule would be:  if you are using part of a F-4 Phantom II fuselage to make a Hawker Siddeley P.1154, then that is in, whereas if you are using a F-4 Phantom II fuselage to make a F-4 Phantom II from New Zealand, than that is out.

How does that sound?

All else fails, let the moderator decide  .

Regards,

Greg

[Taiidantomcat]

This one could be a real blast looking forward to it