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Noordyun Aircraft Ltd Norseman (UC-64A)

Started by Weaver, August 11, 2009, 04:23:56 AM

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Weaver

Revell have just re-issued the old Matchbox Norseman. Now this is already good value for the whiffer's money since it comes with floats, skis and wheels and two and three-bladed prop options. So what else could you do with it?

I've been looking at late-'30s single-engined airliners like the Lockheed Orion or He-70 Blitz a lot recently, so the first thing that crossed my mind was to move the wing down to the low position, reduce it's span, and call it a Vultee Viking... :wacko:

Over to you.....
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Captain Canada

Cool...now I can finally buy a few more so I'll have the balls to build the one in my stash !

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Mossie

How about a Twoman, giving it twin engines.  Norsemans version of a Twotter.

It'd suit a bush war in South America or Africa, stick ordanance on it as you see fit.

Or put it in a diroama, with Glenn Miller being beamed aboard an alien spaceship..... :wacko:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on August 11, 2009, 06:57:13 AM
How about a Twoman, giving it twin engines.  Norsemans version of a Twotter.

It'd suit a bush war in South America or Africa, stick ordanance on it as you see fit.

Or put it in a diroama, with Glenn Miller being beamed aboard an alien spaceship..... :wacko:

Or how about showing it piled up in the alien's hold, on top of Amelia Earheart's Lockheed Electra..... :wacko:
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Mossie

Amy Johnson's Oxford too, with the whole of Flight 19 crammed in the back! :lol:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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jcf

Quote from: Weaver on August 11, 2009, 04:23:56 AM

I've been looking at late-'30s single-engined airliners like the Lockheed Orion or He-70 Blitz a lot recently, so the first thing that crossed my mind was to move the wing down to the low position, reduce it's span, and call it a Vultee Viking... :wacko:
Over to you.....

Late-'30s?  Those aircraft are iconic of the early to mid-'30s.
Single engine airliners were pretty much dead-as-dodos by the late-'30s.

A low-wing Norseman could I suppose be a Vultee, a stablemate to their own V-1, however the
airframe construction technique would be a step backward for Vultee. The all-metal monocoque
V-1 having flown two and a half years before the steel tube, wood and fabric Noorduyn.


Jon

Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 11, 2009, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 11, 2009, 04:23:56 AM

I've been looking at late-'30s single-engined airliners like the Lockheed Orion or He-70 Blitz a lot recently, so the first thing that crossed my mind was to move the wing down to the low position, reduce it's span, and call it a Vultee Viking... :wacko:
Over to you.....

Late-'30s?  Those aircraft are iconic of the early to mid-'30s.
Single engine airliners were pretty much dead-as-dodos by the late-'30s.

A low-wing Norseman could I suppose be a Vultee, a stablemate to their own V-1, however the
airframe construction technique would be a step backward for Vultee. The all-metal monocoque
V-1 having flown two and a half years before the steel tube, wood and fabric Noorduyn.


Jon

So shoot me for a few years....... :rolleyes:

Who says a wholly fictional aircraft like the Vultee Viking was built in the same timeframe as the kit which "just happens" to have donated the bits for it anyway? Maybe the Viking came before the V1, and the latter was a development using the new all-metal technology?

Weaver
Glad he edited his original post to change "Vega" to "Orion" before JC got hold of that one...... :o ;D
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

jcf

Quote from: Weaver on August 11, 2009, 09:36:04 AM

Who says a wholly fictional aircraft like the Vultee Viking was built in the same timeframe as the kit which "just happens" to have donated the bits for it anyway? Maybe the Viking came before the V1, and the latter was a development using the new all-metal technology?

Weaver
Glad he edited his original post to change "Vega" to "Orion" before JC got hold of that one...... :o ;D

Not a likely scenario for the Vultee company as Jerry Vultee's company (actually the Airplane Development Corporation funded by E.L. Cord),
was formed to develop Vultee's all-metal transport design, the V-1. Vultee had previously worked with Jack Northrop on the
Lockheed Vega and at the Detroit Aircraft Co. and EMSCO.
A Jerry Vultee designed low-wing Norseman type could fit into the EMSCO stable as he designed the EMSCO B-4.

The Lockheed 'Stars' are all one family so no biggie. ;)

Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 11, 2009, 11:49:41 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 11, 2009, 09:36:04 AM

Who says a wholly fictional aircraft like the Vultee Viking was built in the same timeframe as the kit which "just happens" to have donated the bits for it anyway? Maybe the Viking came before the V1, and the latter was a development using the new all-metal technology?

Weaver
Glad he edited his original post to change "Vega" to "Orion" before JC got hold of that one...... :o ;D

Not a likely scenario for the Vultee company as Jerry Vultee's company (actually the Airplane Development Corporation funded by E.L. Cord),
was formed to develop Vultee's all-metal transport design, the V-1. Vultee had previously worked with Jack Northrop on the
Lockheed Vega and at the Detroit Aircraft Co. and EMSCO.
A Jerry Vultee designed low-wing Norseman type could fit into the EMSCO stable as he designed the EMSCO B-4.

The Lockheed 'Stars' are all one family so no biggie. ;)

Fair enough: I only gave it to Vultee because the name alliterated with Viking anyway.... ;)
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

jcf

Quote from: apophenia on August 11, 2009, 09:33:06 PM
Not to pick nits but I believe Vultee's first full EMSCO design was the B-10 (the B-4 was designed by CF Rocheville). According to Walt Boyne, the second B-4 was low-winged (the others were mid-winged). Anyway, definately a backwards step for Vultee.

How about Bob Noorduyn returns to Holland and builds a low-wing Norseman there? Maybe a design for Pander or Koolhoven?

Nit correctly picked, I quoted Aerofiles before checking other sources. Mea culpa.

Captain Canada

Norsemen ?

I found my Revell boxing and lo-and-behold it also contained the old Matchbox kit ! A Norseman along the lines of a Twin Otter looks like alot of work......but it sure is a good idea !

:cheers:
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

jcf


Mossie

The Tworseman looks great!  I guess with the extra engine you could put a stretch in the fuselage.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

jcf

Quote from: apophenia on August 11, 2009, 11:26:24 PM
The Noorduyn Tworseman -- looking frighteningly like another Canadian bush twin, the Fairchild 45-80 Sekani (or a monoplane Fleet 50K Freighter)!

[Jon: sticking with the EMSCO theme?  ;D]

And it would probably be as big a turd as the Sekani.  ;D

Yeah, a Tres-man would be very EMSCO.  ;D