Airfix TSR2

[Swamphen]

I see one fly in the "35 TSR.2s on the wall" ointment.

Airfix Bean Counter: "Why do we have to do a kit of this bloody plane when everyone's already build one - or ten - themselves?!"

[Scooterman]

I see one fly in the "35 TSR.2s on the wall" ointment.

Airfix Bean Counter: "Why do we have to do a kit of this bloody plane when everyone's already build one - or ten - themselves?!"

Because not everybody can spend 50 quid (or whatever the bloody expensive thing costs!) on a full resin kit!  

C'mon Airfix!  I WANT MY (plastic) TSR.2 DAMNIT!

I've been saving a DML Su-24 for the v/g version.

Mmmmm V/G TSR2........    

Brad

[nev]

Well, its good to see Airfix doing clever things like releasing updated kits with all the latest weapons, which it seems like no-one else is making.  And lets be honest, its actually a smart move by the bean-counters to not release a weapons set.  How many of us have bought a kit just for the rare decal option/ordnance that it contains?

*counts a show of hands*

So thats all of us then  


Now, there is only so long that Airfix can go on re-releasing old kits with updated sprues.  I'm sure its been a good little earner for them, for very little investment, but sooner or later they will have to do some new tools.

They've already (finally) done the 48th Hawk.  They cannot put off doing a 72nd TSR2 or Nimrod or a 48th Canberra forever.  If they don't, someone else will.  But not Hasegawa obviously (unless they can do a TSR2 with a swastika on the tail    )

[Mairfrog]

Damn right!  B)

I've got one TSR2 kit, a £40 Heritage one from when they were unavailable. I'm not buying another at that price so my TSR 2 will be XR220. I'm going to do my best effort on it in case (God forbid) it's the only TSR 2 kit I ever get.

An Airfix kit at about £10 would mean I can do loads of What If versions, some really deatiled, others almost OOB without worrying about messing up a £40 kit. What Airfix have to watch out for is folks like Trumpeter or MPM who may well notice the TSR 2 campaign and decide to fill the niche. It's not just the UK market that wants the thing, as we all know.

I'm a huge Airfix fan but if another mainstream manufacturer does the TSR 2 I'll buy that kit in an instant.

Regarding the USAF TSR 2, this is what if world. If the RAF, RAAF or SAAF versions can exist then it's in a world where either UK governments look after UK interests or US governments have become as treacherous as real UK ones. I don't think it's impossible, very unlikely maybe, but the USAF did have Canberras, the US Marines bought Harriers and the US Navy has Goshawks. The chap who ordered Harriers said 'The airplane is perfect, and once we get it we'll modify it' which is what they did. Perhaps a USAF TSR 2 should have ugly mods like the B-57 to show it's US licence built lineage? I reckon it'd look good in the natural metal and white schemes like the B-58.

Also, it'd be a cocked snoot to the buggers who killed off UK aviation. :ar:  

[Jschmus]

If Airfix does make a TSR2, you can put me down for a couple.  I only discovered it a couple of years ago, during a "what if" discussion on the Starship Modeler board.  A UK friend of mine brought up the subject last year, when he told me that a friend had mocked one up to show the Airfix guys.  I've had my fingers crossed ever since.  I'm not a member of IPMS, but if there's a petition to be signed, I'll gladly add myself.

[Aircav]

I think someting around the £15 mark was mentioned for a ****** TSR2 plastic kit  

[Martin H]

If Airfix does make a TSR2, you can put me down for a couple.  I only discovered it a couple of years ago, during a "what if" discussion on the Starship Modeler board.  A UK friend of mine brought up the subject last year, when he told me that a friend had mocked one up to show the Airfix guys.  I've had my fingers crossed ever since.  I'm not a member of IPMS, but if there's a petition to be signed, I'll gladly add myself.

The mock up box was in protective custody with me (im not the guilty culprit thou) till the Northern show, its now in the care of the TSR-2 sig.

[Mairfrog]

Take good care of it Wooks, there's only one other in existence!

Now is the time to bombard www.airfix.com with TSR 2 requests. There's a new thread running at the mo and Trev Snowden has said that now is the time they select projects for next year. So far the bean counters have prevented it but if enough people ask for it then they'll have to do it.

So everybody go register your support already!  B)  

[Geoff_B]

Now is the time to bombard www.airfix.com with TSR 2 requests. There's a new thread running at the mo and Trev Snowden has said that now is the time they select projects for next year. So far the bean counters have prevented it but if enough people ask for it then they'll have to do it.

So everybody go register your support already! 

Actually Simon i had a talk with Trev last week when he came over to Bolton IPMS for a talk by John Adams of Aeroclub. He's all for the TSR-2 along with a few other mentioned previously on the Airfix board.

However the meeting was yesterday (16/06/04) with the board, as a result i would suggest being a little more restrained with the campaign until we can get any hints from Trev. Just so as not to upset the bandwagon or start spouting off about one before they can actually produce, just in case somebody else steals theri idea and sales. Afterall we want this to work. If we can get hint that we have been unsuccessful then we re-double our efforts - So no more stunts or campaigning until we know one way or the other .

Hopefully our patience and support will pay off for both us & Airfix and could lead to other modeller inspired projects !!!!.

Geoff B B)  

[Radish]

Sound advice, Geoff.

[Supertom]

Hey Geoff, has Airfix ever tried to get a representative over in the US and other markets to gauge reactions to a TSR.2?  Perhaps a showing at the Nationals?

[Mairfrog]

Hmmm, what kind of a hint are you expecting, Geoff? They seem to be very good at telling us the square root of precisely bugger all. If we get some sign of progress then shutting up about it may well be prudent until the official announcement BUT if management decides they can make us all go away by muttering some non-committal rumour then it'll just kill the campaign dead.

What I want is a firm statement either way. If it can't be an official one then some indication from Trev would suffice. It'd be best to work with them as you say. I've just posted on BACPhoenix about whether it would be better to wait another year, when Airfix are hopefully making money again and the TSR 2 SIG is fully functional. Might get a better quality kit t out of them too.

Tell you what, for the time being I won't argue with any of the JMNs on airfix.com    

[Mairfrog]

It's the strain of this feckin Concorde project getting to me.

Now then, the BNP. There's something that most certainly will end in nazism...

[TsrJoe]

from Geoff's post...

However the meeting was yesterday (16/06/04) with the board, as a result i would suggest being a little more restrained with the campaign until we can get any hints from Trev. Just so as not to upset the bandwagon or start spouting off about one before they can actually produce, just in case somebody else steals theri idea and sales. Afterall we want this to work. If we can get hint that we have been unsuccessful then we re-double our efforts - So no more stunts or campaigning until we know one way or the other .

Hopefully our patience and support will pay off for both us & Airfix and could lead to other modeller inspired projects !!!!.

must admit i have to agree with this one...best waiting a while to see how things develop over at Airfix...then poss go ahead with plan a, b, or whatever!!!
the aircraft's not going anywhere...been sitting there since the 1960's!!!  

happy unrestrained modelling, cheers joe