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Feeling the (Plenum Chamber) Burn - Jarhead Jump Jet, or the USMC P1154.

Started by Overkiller, April 30, 2011, 02:35:24 PM

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Weaver

I can't help wondering, if heads had been knocked together earlier and the imminent end of big carriers more clearly perceived, whether a seriously joint RAF/RN version could have been developed. The RN would have to accept a single engine, a one-man crew and a smaller radar (as the eventually did with the SHAR) and the RAF would have to accept the extra drag of a bubble canopy and possibly a bigger wing and the extra weight of a wing fold provision (it'd still be heavier, even if they had it locked). Service-specific bits would be limited to the contents of the nose (but not the shape of it) and possibly different-sized outer wings with different-sized tailplanes to match.

On the gunpack, I know the USMC adopted the ADEN pods (but didn't use them much) on the AV-8A, but I wonder whether, given the different shape of the 1154's big single pack, they mightn't have developed their own version with a 20mm Vulcan in it?
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Gondor

Quote from: GTX on June 25, 2011, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: Gondor on June 25, 2011, 03:11:37 PM

Quit giving me so many ideas as I have more than enough to work on

Gondor

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Thorvic

Nice build Duncan, thought the USMC would be a logical choice and a real double take model  :thumbsup:.

Combining the Hunter & Sea Vixen requirements were a really dumb idea, as one was a close air support day fighter and the other a long rang missile interceptor, two vastly different requirements that any deign would struggle to meet without adding in the VTOL issue (the F-35 program showing just how hard this is with todays technology !). The RN should have been left to carry on with AW406 as that would have produced an airframe to meet the RNs primary requirement and then could be utilised by the RAF in a similar guise to how the AFVG was later envisaged.

BTW there is a common RAF/RN 1154 design based on the RAF design with naval features which Freightdog could use and inculde suitable FAA(& export) markings, then there is the hybrid mixing some features from both designs such as the longer naval wing with the blisters housing outriggers rather than the main gear - This was the one General Melchett built using Colins 1154 fuselage and the vacforrm RN wing.
The actual  dedicated AW406 RN design is vastly different that indeed it would require a new master and its tandem seat layout is of lower profile than the 2 seat RAF trainer that it couldn't form the basis of a common two seater kit  :banghead:
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Great looking plane Duncan, I meant to get one of them but ran out of cash!  :banghead:

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