B-17E/F Bomb-Bay Question

Started by KJ_Lesnick, August 13, 2012, 11:56:58 AM

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Quote from: wuzak on August 14, 2012, 10:31:27 PM

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 14, 2012, 10:21:24 PM
and it was a direct outgrowth of the Model 247. Thus the low wing.

No, it wasn't.

In engineering terms it was, both in terms of basic aerodynamics and structural design.

wuzak

AN-M56A1 4000lb light case bomb

Length: 117.25in/2798mm (max)
Width Across fins: 47.62in/1210mm (max)
Bomb Weight: 4232lb/1919kg
Explosive: 50-50 Amatol
Explosive weight:3238lb/1469kg

wuzak

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 15, 2012, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: wuzak on August 14, 2012, 10:31:27 PM

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 14, 2012, 10:21:24 PM
and it was a direct outgrowth of the Model 247. Thus the low wing.

No, it wasn't.

In engineering terms it was, both in terms of basic aerodynamics and structural design.


Yes, in that sense. It was a continuation of Boeing's best practice.

KJ_Lesnick

Okay, I have another couple of questions if anybody has an answer.  The issues pertain to increases in engine power and increases in weight.

Does anybody have weight and horsepower listings for the B-17 variants?
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

wuzak

Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on August 19, 2012, 02:24:24 PM
Okay, I have another couple of questions if anybody has an answer.  The issues pertain to increases in engine power and increases in weight.

Does anybody have weight and horsepower listings for the B-17 variants?

You could peruse this: http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b17.html

KJ_Lesnick

Wuzak

I'm getting discrepancies... in the written section it says that the Y1B-17A could do 311 mph while the listed stats show a figure of 295 mph for example.

Another question is how did the B-17C end up doing 323 mph when the B-17B could only do 292 with the same HP?
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

wuzak

Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on August 20, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
Wuzak

I'm getting discrepancies... in the written section it says that the Y1B-17A could do 311 mph while the listed stats show a figure of 295 mph for example.

Another question is how did the B-17C end up doing 323 mph when the B-17B could only do 292 with the same HP?

Not sure. It may be to do with the use of war emergencey power. Also, the B and C have the same power at takeoff, doesn't mean they did so at altitude.

KJ_Lesnick

wuzak

QuoteNot sure. It may be to do with the use of war emergencey power.
So, at WEP it could do 311 and otherwise do 292?  Could it also be at a specific altitude?

QuoteAlso, the B and C have the same power at takeoff, doesn't mean they did so at altitude.
Did they have different turbos?
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

wuzak

Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on August 21, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
wuzak

QuoteNot sure. It may be to do with the use of war emergencey power.
So, at WEP it could do 311 and otherwise do 292?  Could it also be at a specific altitude?

It may be that one model didn't have WEP available.


Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on August 21, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
QuoteAlso, the B and C have the same power at takeoff, doesn't mean they did so at altitude.
Did they have different turbos?


Different versions of the same engine may have different max or normal power even though they have the same takeoff power. That max power may be less than the takeoff power as well.