Iraqi markings

[rickshaw]

Were Iraqi markings during the final decade of the Hashimite Monarchy regime (1947-1958) different to the latter Republican regime's?

[NARSES2]

The triangle was used from founding in the 30's untill the 2003 invasion as far as I'm aware. Not sure about fin flash though. Pre WWII it was red/white/green RAF style

[rickshaw]

Thanks.  I am looking to do a late 1950s Iraqi build and wasn't sure if the markings had radically changed.  All the decals I can find are 1980s onwards.

[ChernayaAkula]

Linden Hill has got you covered.  LINK

[NARSES2]

Thanks.  I am looking to do a late 1950s Iraqi build and wasn't sure if the markings had radically changed.  All the decals I can find are 1980s onwards.

I've got some 1940's ones - it's on the DP Casper sheet covering the "war" in Iraq in 1941.

[dadlamassu]

When out in Iraq in 2003 & 2004 we recovered a Hawker Fury wreck that was still in its Royal colours.  It had top sides in sand and stone with azure undersides.  The markings were the green triangles with the red Arabic J (for "jaish" - army) and fin flash stripes (from the front) green - white - red - black it also had a black three digit number in Arabic .

[dadlamassu]

Found some pictures that may be of use:

Royal Iraqi Air Force











Iraqi Air Force (after 1958)





Later fin flash





Lots more here

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_207.shtml

[PR19_Kit]

When out in Iraq in 2003 & 2004 we recovered a Hawker Fury wreck that was still in its Royal colours.  It had top sides in sand and stone with azure undersides.  The markings were the green triangles with the red Arabic J (for "jaish" - army) and fin flash stripes (from the front) green - white - red - black it also had a black three digit number in Arabic .

But what did you DO with it?

Is it one of those whizzing round pylons at Reno perhaps?

[dadlamassu]

But what did you DO with it?

Is it one of those whizzing round pylons at Reno perhaps?

Being British, we made sure we found as many of the bits as we could and ended up with most of one plane and also several bits left over - some extra wing sections, tyres, a spare engine, 3 drop tanks and lots of small parts etc missing.  Carefully wrapped it and sent it to a museum for restoration cannot remember which - probably Al Basra or An Nasiriya.  These relics - Furies, Hunters, Vampires were not regarded by us as war trophies as they were not in service but parked up incapable of flying so they belonged to the Iraqi people.  I did watch a USAF video of a raid (Balat I think) where quite a few smart bombs were used to destroy a dozen or so museum pieces.   

[PR19_Kit]

But what did you DO with it?

Is it one of those whizzing round pylons at Reno perhaps?

Being British, we made sure we found as many of the bits as we could and ended up with most of one plane and also several bits left over - some extra wing sections, tyres, a spare engine, 3 drop tanks and lots of small parts etc missing.  Carefully wrapped it and sent it to a museum for restoration cannot remember which - probably Al Basra or An Nasiriya.  These relics - Furies, Hunters, Vampires were not regarded by us as war trophies as they were not in service but parked up incapable of flying so they belonged to the Iraqi people.  I did watch a USAF video of a raid (Balat I think) where quite a few smart bombs were used to destroy a dozen or so museum pieces.   

Excellent stuff, nice to know they're still around. 

[rickshaw]

Out of a matter of interest, does anybody know what the colours on the Vampire and Venom are in the profiles?

[dadlamassu]

Making an assumption - dangerous I know - that they might be painted in RAF standard colours:

Vampire: Mid Stone, Olive Green and Azure
Venom:  Mid Stone, Dark earth and Azure

But then the Iraqi sun and sand would alter them very quickly.