Dreaming of Whiffs

[zenrat]

I had a very vivid dream last night about model aircraft.
I was in a toy shop with my dad and I found a whole section devoted to Luft 46 resin kits.
There was about 8 or 10 different models.  I remember a flying submarine, a flying saucer with propeller engine nacelles protruding out the front, a twin boom (just open frameworks - no fabric or metal skin) plane with Me 110 wings and a rocket motor instead of the back of the fuselage and a twinned FW190 with the 2 halves joined not by a normal size wing section but by a deep, full length aerofoil section containing a ducted lift fan.
The box art for the last one showed it hovering in front of a cliff shooting into caves in which enemy troops were sheltering.
There was also a very large and heavy box which I had just taken down to have a look at when I woke up.  All I can say was that is was a transport or bomber and the the bumf on the box said "It's the plane that swallowed a..."

I just Goggled "Luft 46" and nothing came up in the images that looked familiar.
Nothing completely new or unique in what I dreamt (the flying sub was the Convair design) but inspiring none the less.
The twin FW190 was particularly vivid and I think it was my subconscious giving me suggestions on what to do with a pair of Airfix Yak 9s I've just won on evil-bay.

[Captain Canada]

A cave shootin' ducted fan double 190 ? Un Focke in believable ! Sounds interesteing tho !

I do like the dream of being there with your Dad tho. 

[kerick]

Write it down and make sketches before it all fades from memory. Sounds like some possibilities in there.

[zenrat]

I often dream about my parents.  They are both still with us but are 12,000 miles away in the UK.

Just did a quick sketch.

The original to be pinned up over my bench on my wall of inspiration.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

[Captain Canada]

Oh that does look nice ! I can see the tails canted more to a V tho....maybe under the premise of better low speed handling ?

And maybe check the dollar store for a cheap apple corer/ slicer ? Might be a good start for a ducted fan !

[kerick]

Yak 9s instead of the FW 190s sounds like a very Russian thing to build! Go for it!
BTW, I had a dream once of being in a very old hobby shop in downtown Chicago. Everything was covered in dust. More like the wand shop in Harry Potter.

[zenrat]

Yak 9s instead of the FW 190s sounds like a very Russian thing to build! Go for it!
BTW, I had a dream once of being in a very old hobby shop in downtown Chicago. Everything was covered in dust. More like the wand shop in Harry Potter.

No sir, the kit chooses you...

Thanks for the suggestion Capt.  I was thinking or fabricating the aerofoil section by folding plastic card round foil shaped vertical sections (the correct name for which escapes me ATM) and then carefully holesawing through it and inserting a slice of 2" waste pipe.
A buried engine would power the fans (2 - contrarotating) plus a compressor providing air to the wingtips and tail for attitude control when hovering.

<edit> Ribs.  That's the word I was searching for.  Sometimes I wonder about my state of mental health...

[kerick]

Yak 9s instead of the FW 190s sounds like a very Russian thing to build! Go for it!
BTW, I had a dream once of being in a very old hobby shop in downtown Chicago. Everything was covered in dust. More like the wand shop in Harry Potter.

No sir, the kit chooses you...

Sometimes it seems that way......

[Green Dragon]

Often have the old model shop dream. Always full of cool stuff that never saw plastic.

Paul Harrison

[kerick]

Yak 9s instead of the FW 190s sounds like a very Russian thing to build! Go for it!
BTW, I had a dream once of being in a very old hobby shop in downtown Chicago. Everything was covered in dust. More like the wand shop in Harry Potter.

No sir, the kit chooses you...

Thanks for the suggestion Capt.  I was thinking or fabricating the aerofoil section by folding plastic card round foil shaped vertical sections (the correct name for which escapes me ATM) and then carefully holesawing through it and inserting a slice of 2" waste pipe.
A buried engine would power the fans (2 - contrarotating) plus a compressor providing air to the wingtips and tail for attitude control when hovering.

<edit> Ribs.  That's the word I was searching for.  Sometimes I wonder about my state of mental health...

In whif world there is no mental health, just wonderful madness!

[Scotaidh]

Zenrat, I like your ducted-fan double 190 scheme.  Might not a metal apple-corer be a bit heavy?  I'm thinking your aircraft would require really strong undercarriage.

I once started a kit-bash with an old mini-Mag flashlight, and I never finished it because it was too heavy - I couldn't find anything in scale that could hold up.

If it were I, I'd look in my local dollar store for some of those flying-propeller toys in the right size.

[famvburg]

I've had dreams like that before. One that I fairly vividly recall was in the mid 80s. The best I can describe it is a cross between a Douglas F4D Skyray with the nose section of a Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker. I occasionally think of putting a 1/72 Su-27 nose section on a 1/48 F4D to create it.

[zenrat]

If you can still picture it famvburg that mean you have to build it.

Scotaidh - the corer suggestion wasn't my plan.  I'll be scratching up the centre section.

[Cobra]

Looked Super Cool,Almost like something from a Blackhawks Comic! Did the Site i Shot a PM about help any? Dan

[zenrat]

Yeah, thanks Dan.  Sorry, I should have said.
I particularly like the Triebflugel.

Re. Ducted fans.  Should I manage to come up with a satisfactory method of making them from scratch I have had in my head for a while an FW 189 with the wings outboard of the engines replaced by pivoted fans.  I just need to find a cheap 1/72 Airfix 189.