single-float plane, or flying boat? was : twin-hull flying boat or float plane

Started by ericr, June 21, 2014, 02:52:11 AM

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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: rickshaw on June 21, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
Looks like a Schneider Cup entry.  Seems to ooze speed.    :thumbsup:

Or as it had been designed for Hayao Miyazakai's "Porco Rosso" anime movie? Beautiful!  :thumbsup:

ericr

Quote from: Tophe on July 07, 2014, 01:44:43 AM
Thanks ericr, you have enriched the P-38 Lightning family by several new versions (4 up to now, maybe more in the future)
see at the end of http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/index.htm

ah, it is a real pleasure !  :smiley:

the P38s look great with such floats with fins!


ericr

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on July 07, 2014, 02:36:18 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on June 21, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
Looks like a Schneider Cup entry.  Seems to ooze speed.    :thumbsup:

Or as it had been designed for Hayao Miyazakai's "Porco Rosso" anime movie? Beautiful!  :thumbsup:

thanks a lot for your appreciation!

Porco Rosso is definitely a fundamental inspiration for me : seapleanes forever!


ericr


just to show how wildly kit-bashed it was : here are some of the sources :

floats came from two Cams37 hulls :



and



wings are taken from the Condor wheeled version underwings :



and the fuselage from the back part of a NiD-72 :



and the engine I can't be sure, but it might be an optional one from Mach2's Mariner?



the propeller and horizontal stabilizer I really can't remember ...



PR19_Kit

What are you going to do with all the left-over bits ericr???
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

ericr

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
What are you going to do with all the left-over bits ericr???

each of the seaplanes was built quite straight out of the box (but I didn't use any of the decals : I apply monochrome red yellow or blue).

It is the remainders of all those that grouped up into a neo-Levasseur PL-201, just by magic !

ericr

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
What are you going to do with all the left-over bits ericr???

or actually, the question might be : what is the definition of a kit bash ?

(I am not a native english-speaker, and not familiar with what-if vocabulary, since I joined only recently this site, although doing imaginary things for years)

If it means : purposefully acquiring kits in order to (mis-)use them in a way that mixes their parts, then I didn't do it here, since I actually worked the other way round.
Having finished the kits, and feeling like trying to do a PL201, I looked in the spare parts box, and found what I found.
Or more precisely : seeing the PL201 picture, I remembered that I had these two Cams37 hulls, of which I thought it would be a pity not to use them ...

And I do have still quite a few spare bits of interest, like the hull of a Be-6, the hull of a S_38, ...

wait and see.

ericr

#22
another questionable classification : is it a single-float plane, or a flying boat?

There could be a back story for this one : the French had a flying boats airbase in Viet-Nam/Indochina where they flew CAMS 37s, and later they used Gearcats in that part of the world, so they might have float-planized a Bearcat using the hull of of a Cams? at least in their dreams? or at least in mine  :smiley:

And more than this : it became a biplane by adopting and adapting a pair of SOC Seamew wings. But for the presence of these in a French airbase there is no plausible explanation.








PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Tophe

Wonderful! :wub: This is the most pleasant Bearcat I have ever seen! :thumbsup: (and my late uncle Raymond piloted Bearcats in Indochina)
Concerning classification, I would classify it as flying boat because the marine part has the tail as part of itself. While... as the upper part/fuselage holds the tail also directly, I would say this is a twin-fuselage flying-boat, or 1-fuselage + 1-hull, my mind is aching... ;) May I include a copy (with a link towards here) in my collection of twin-fuselage aircraft?
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

zenrat

Quote from: ericr on August 19, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
another questionable classification : is it a single-float plane, or a flying boat?

Neither.  It's an amphibian...

;D

Love your work Eric.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Tophe

Quote from: zenrat on August 20, 2014, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: ericr on August 19, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
another questionable classification : is it a single-float plane, or a flying boat?

Neither.  It's an amphibian...

;D

Love your work Eric.

Amphibian float-plane or amphibian flying-boat?, that was the question. No? Does this sound impossible in English language?
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

ericr

thank you all ! it's a pleasure to give you pleasure  ;D

the Bearcat wings are a good basis for amphibianship indeed ;D

I did think about struts, but I considered that these modern wongs were strong enough to avoid them, hence a more modern lokk, kind of, and also I remembered that there had existed some biplanes without struts, and even, for that matter, a triplane, and quite famous at that (apparently they were added affter the pressure of pilots who wanted struts for their re-assurance)







zenrat

Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2014, 03:05:54 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 20, 2014, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: ericr on August 19, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
another questionable classification : is it a single-float plane, or a flying boat?

Neither.  It's an amphibian...

;D

Love your work Eric.

Amphibian float-plane or amphibian flying-boat?, that was the question. No? Does this sound impossible in English language?

Just an amphibian aircraft.   ;D
Sometimes I think we worry too much about categorising and labelling.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

ericr

Quote from: zenrat on August 21, 2014, 03:35:39 AM
Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2014, 03:05:54 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 20, 2014, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: ericr on August 19, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
another questionable classification : is it a single-float plane, or a flying boat?

Neither.  It's an amphibian...

;D

Love your work Eric.

Amphibian float-plane or amphibian flying-boat?, that was the question. No? Does this sound impossible in English language?

Just an amphibian aircraft.   ;D
Sometimes I think we worry too much about categorising and labelling.


I like to consider them, from a specific angle : crossing them  ;D

thank for your appreciation zenrat : i am particularly impressed by your works as well.
And as I sometimes say : if anyone with finer skills than mine wants to make a variant of some of my proposals, I am happy in advance.