Whiffed Crosti boilered locomotive

[zenrat]

Deflectors.  With nose art on them.
And kill markings on the cab sides.

To my eye these are quite subtle whiffs which take some specific knowledge to identify as such.  Well done.
Have you considered making them amphibious to fit in with the current GB?

Hmmm, just had a thought.  Finnish border patrol armoured train for the Cold War GB.
Feel free to use it anyone.

[NARSES2]

Most loco's look better with deflectors IMHO.  Although having traveled on a couple of steam footplates I', mot sure how effective they would be ?? 

To my eye these are quite subtle whiffs which take some specific knowledge to identify as such.  Well done.

Very much so 

[PR19_Kit]

Most loco's look better with deflectors IMHO.  Although having traveled on a couple of steam footplates I', mot sure how effective they would be ?? 

Apparently the RW Crostis had a terrible reputation of smoking out the poor fireman who was on the right hand side of the cab, thus the addition of the deflector on the RW pic above. They weren't all that effective though, so perhaps the addition of the 'big lugs' would have helped out some? 

Goodness knows what they'd have been like in passenger service, the leading coaches could have been uninhabitable! There's only one recorded use of a Crosti in passenger service, but no reports from the pax have surfaced. Perhaps they didn't survive? 

[sideshowbob9]

Perhaps extend the RH deflector on the Crosti all the way to the chimney? I think having deflector-gap-deflector would render it all superfluous. Would that make it a semi-streamliner?

As for the Bulleid Baltic, the Pacifics were slippery to say the least. Having even less adhesion will make for very interesting starts. Also Southern Railways had a serious aversion to express passenger tanks after Sevenoaks and the Rolling Rivers. The Southern inherited some perfectly good Baltic Tanks (Billinton L class) and rebuilt them into 4-6-0s so I can understand why these were never built.

That said, your renditions capture the Bulleid spirit perfectly and I'm really looking forward to seeing your ideas in the flesh. Perhaps if Maunsell's N class was made a standard class as was proposed, he'd be too busy to produce the Rivers, Sevenoaks would never happen and the Southern would never develop its express passenger tank-ophobia?

[TallEng]

I agree about the smoke deflectors, it makes the "look" of a lot of Loco's,
However part of the Crosti boilered loco's character is that odd smoke deflector on the right,
And the missing smoke deflectors up front (if the original was fitted with such)
And As I recall the front Chimney was only used for lighting up? So you wouldn't need the big
smoke deflectors. However it might be interesting to make the right hand smoke deflector look
Like it could direct the smoke up and out the way with some vanes To direct the air? Possibly controlled
From the cab? (Cables and pulleys? Or rods?)
And I really like the Baltic tank loco, I had the same thought myself after reading a book called "The Leader Project" by Kevin Robertson, a most interesting tome which contains several drawings of various ideas put forward for the Leader project, which where rejected for one reason or another. One of them is of course the Baltic tank
Idea, which I was very taken with, so much so that I attempted to convert it from an original 70's triang BoB/MN pacific
(It's still a work in progress  )
Regards
Keith

[PR19_Kit]

Two minds with but a single thought? 

I rather like the idea of a long deflector on the right hand side, and with some angled vanes inside it (think current day F1 cars  ) it may well have helped lift the smoke up from the chimney.

And yes, the Crostis did only use the 'normal' chimney for lighting up purposes.

I've got 2-3 books on the Leader loco, and I've thought of building one a few times, but the massive Boxpok driving wheels, but not as large as those on a Q1, make it rather difficult.

How's this for a looooooong deflector?



I think that looks rather good. 

[TallEng]

Well that looooong smoke deflector should certainly help tunnel the air towards the chimney, and as you say
Some formula 1 style vanes around the chimney end of the deflector should help enormously
As for The Leader: according to my books it had 5'1" dia. Wheels the same as a Q1, unfortunately the wheel
Base is a little different, otherwise I'd suggest a Class 59 diesel body and the chassis and wheels from two Hornby
Q1's and you'd be most of the way there.

Regards
Keith

[PR19_Kit]

Having now got all the parts of the Crosti-Caprotti 2-8-2 to hand I started work on it this evening.

I've dismantled the chassis so as to remove the rear driver wheelset of the 2-10-0 setup, and the wheelset came out rather easily, much to my surprise. But laying the trailing truck alongside the chassis to see how it would fit it's obvious that I'll need to do some SERIOUS hacksaw work on the chassis frame to make space for the truck. 

It looks like I'll have to make some new pickups for the 4 axled chassis as the old ones only fit properly to the 5 axled setup, but that shouldn't be too difficult, I'm used to doing it for much smaller N Gauge locos. 

I'll post some before and after pics once I've found the hacksaw and the heavy duty vice......

[PR19_Kit]

Never comfortable with only one build project running, I started work on the Bullied Baltic tank as well. 

The Dapol/Airfix/Kitmaster body shell is pretty basic, but was a revelation in its time, and I really needed some better detail parts (Think Aeroclub and Eduard....) and with some help from fellow railway modellers on another forum I was given a link to a veritable cornucopia of bits that will suit, deep joy. 

So I've just spent an arm and a leg on all sorts of stuff for this build, but I think I'll give it its own thread or this one will get seriously confused. Pics when the bits arrive and I've actually assembled something.