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Fokker D.XX of the Hærens Flyvertropper (Danish Army Aviation Troops), 1938

Started by Dizzyfugu, January 08, 2018, 11:51:24 PM

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stevehed

Up there with the rest of them. Imaginative, well built and plausible. Just the way I like them.

Regards, Steve

Dizzyfugu

Again, thanks a lot! The colors are really obscure. I could not find a reliable visual reference (not even a museum aircraft of the era), and the verbal descriptions of the two upper tones vary widely. Painting instructions in model kits are even more confusing and IMHO simply wrong. I assume that it was a greenish yellow/sand tone, and a very dark olive drab that had a brownish hue. I tried to come close to this with the tones I chose, but there's no guarantee for authenticity. Suits the Fokker well, though.  ;D

Quote from: loupgarou on January 09, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
Even if I cannot understand how it's possible to glue the upper wing and keep it straight on all axes with only those flimsy struts at the wing extremities.  :o

Took some biplane kitbashing attempts, but I found a safe way: lower wings first, then the outer support struts. Upper wings next, and the stabilizer struts with the fuselage are mounted as the final step. This ensures a relatively level position of the wing, and fitting the fuselage struts on thier own is easier than trying to put the upper wing on them, including the outer struts. Very wobbly affair, and hardly works at all.

loupgarou

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 09, 2018, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: loupgarou on January 09, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
Even if I cannot understand how it's possible to glue the upper wing and keep it straight on all axes with only those flimsy struts at the wing extremities.  :o

Took some biplane kitbashing attempts, but I found a safe way: lower wings first, then the outer support struts. Upper wings next, and the stabilizer struts with the fuselage are mounted as the final step. This ensures a relatively level position of the wing, and fitting the fuselage struts on thier own is easier than trying to put the upper wing on them, including the outer struts. Very wobbly affair, and hardly works at all.

Yes, but how it's possible to glue the struts pointing upward at the correct angle without an upper "reference"? And that those f***ing flimsy things STAY in the position you decided?  :unsure:
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Weaver

Excellent job Dizzy!  :thumbsup:

As someone who's currently scratching his head about mating wings from one thing to a fuselage from another via a mess of struts, I sympathise...
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stevehed

Quote from: loupgarou on January 10, 2018, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 09, 2018, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: loupgarou on January 09, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
Even if I cannot understand how it's possible to glue the upper wing and keep it straight on all axes with only those flimsy struts at the wing extremities.  :o

Took some biplane kitbashing attempts, but I found a safe way: lower wings first, then the outer support struts. Upper wings next, and the stabilizer struts with the fuselage are mounted as the final step. This ensures a relatively level position of the wing, and fitting the fuselage struts on thier own is easier than trying to put the upper wing on them, including the outer struts. Very wobbly affair, and hardly works at all.

Yes, but how it's possible to glue the struts pointing upward at the correct angle without an upper "reference"? And that those f***ing flimsy things STAY in the position you decided?  :unsure:

I've always found it best to turn the top wing over and fix it to either lined paper or graph paper. The lines will help to line it up straight then fix it into place with pins. The struts are best fixed to the lower wing using polystyrene cement. A dab in the hole, let it start to set for a minute so it is tacky, then add the forward strut. I just eyeball it to the correct angle but the tacky glue will hold it. Repeat with the rear using the front strut to get the angle right and the gap between them will be the same for the top. Repeat for the other wing and let them almost set. Now before the next step I should advise it is usually best practice to fit the fin and rudder before turning the aircraft upside down and carefully maneouvring the struts into the holes. The lined paper will help to get the fuselage properly aligned with the wings. Allow to set then fit the cabanes. This usually works for me but different designs may require a bit of adjustment to the basic technique, for example, raising or lowering the rudder to get the front struts into the locating holes.
HTH, Steve

NARSES2

I still have an almost finished Eduard Avia B.534 awaiting it's top wing. Stunning kit but the struts are just to close to scale and won't take the strain. Tried loads of times with no luck, but I'll keep on trying  :banghead:
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Scotaidh

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 12, 2018, 06:33:25 AM
I still have an almost finished Eduard Avia B.534 awaiting it's top wing. Stunning kit but the struts are just to close to scale and won't take the strain. Tried loads of times with no luck, but I'll keep on trying  :banghead:

Have you tried using lock-wire?
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NARSES2

Quote from: Scotaidh on January 14, 2018, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on January 12, 2018, 06:33:25 AM
I still have an almost finished Eduard Avia B.534 awaiting it's top wing. Stunning kit but the struts are just to close to scale and won't take the strain. Tried loads of times with no luck, but I'll keep on trying  :banghead:

Have you tried using lock-wire?

I'm not familiar with the term, but having just googled it, it could be worth pursuing. Thanks  :thumbsup:
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