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Martin 167 Maryland & 187 Baltimore

Started by Mossie, March 22, 2010, 09:26:54 AM

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Weaver

Maryland fuselage used as the basis for a whiff early jet:



(wing omitted for clarity)

Intake replaces original cockpit.
Exhaust replaces ventral turret.
Twin tailfins with wheels to clear jetwash.
Rear fuselage underside cut away to clear jetwash.
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PR19_Kit

Post WWII Martin built the 2-0-2 and 4-0-4 airliners, not the most successfull nor the prettiest pair of aircraft on the block, but good run-of-the-mill propliners.

So what was the 1-0-1 I ask myself, and has anyone here ever built one?????

I'll pass on the 3-0-3 I think.......
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Mossie

So a transport/VIP airliner version of the Baltimore then?  Maryland would be pushing it, unless Michael O'Leary's grandfather had an operation going....  ;)
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2011, 04:46:46 AMSo what was the 1-0-1 I ask myself, and has anyone here ever built one?????

I'm figuring it was a multi-engine jet trainer for commercial pilots.... &, no, I haven't built one.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2011, 04:46:46 AMI'll pass on the 3-0-3 I think.......

Quite likely!... (if you are on it).... The 3-0-3 has a high velocity & an incredibly accurate navigation system for its (pre-GPS) era.... Haven't built one of these, either.

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jcf

The Martin 2-0-2 was the Model 202, the dashes were added by the marketing department.
The 3-0-3 was a pressurized version that was dropped after one prototype, United had also
been interested in a turbo-prop 3-0-4.

According to the Martin project list on Secretprojects, 101 was not assigned, and based on
chronology it would have been a late twenties-early thirties project.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,599.0.html

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Mossie on August 26, 2011, 06:46:23 AM
So a transport/VIP airliner version of the Baltimore then?  Maryland would be pushing it, unless Michael O'Leary's grandfather had an operation going....  ;)

Exactly, and JCF's time frame fits exactly into my idea.

I'm not sure if you could get two rows of seats into a Baltimore, it's a tad narrow, so it could only be an 8 seater at most as you couldn't put any seats over the mainspar. The rear fuselage is going to have to be enlarged somewhat I think.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

sequoiaranger

I don't know where it is on this forum, but I had a drawing somewhere of a "stretched forward" Maryland with a nosewheel that might have been a Doolittle Raider replacement. I have a FROG Maryland, but need another (am in the market--if you have one?) fuselage to make the stretch (fore and partially aft of the wing, actually). Olive Drab, Early-war American cockades, and parked on a carrier deck?? How sweet would THAT look?
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jcf

Maryland cockpit section being crated for shipment to the UK.



Model 176, resembles a blended-wing Maryland with inline engines, they might be X-type engines.


NARSES2

The crated cockpit really does show how cramped the thing was, and as for that blended wing design ?  :o Obviously a good party the night before ?  ;)
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The Baltimore could do steep dive attacks right?  That indicates a good g-load tolerance...
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