Allan--Deluxe Perfect Plastic Putty

Allan · April 04, 2017, 06:18:05 PM

you're right there...the best way to use the stuff is to squeeze some out onto a sheet of plastic and apply it with a sort of small spatula

PR19_Kit · July 04, 2020, 05:41:26 AM

I got a tube of this stuff the last time I was in my LHS, which was mid-March, and this week was the first time I'd used it, or tried to..........

People are saying that it's 'creamy' in consistency, but mine is almost solid. I have to press REALLY hard to get it out of the tube, and it's very dry and chalky when I get some out. It's very reluctant to stick to a primed surface, which makes it useless for PSR work for me as I generally use 3-4 coats of primer during a PSR session.

In general I'm finding it no good at all, miles worse than my usual Presto putty.

Is this behaviour normal or have I got a duff tube?

zenrat · July 04, 2020, 06:04:14 AM

Sounds like you got a duff tube.
It should come out with the consistency of toothpaste.
It does tend to harden around the nozzle. Did you pierce it back in March? If so it could have hardened there.
Try poking a toothpick down the tube to see if it's hard all the way down.
Drastic action would be to slice the bottom of the tube off. You can always roll it back up after but it gets a bit messy.

NARSES2 · July 04, 2020, 06:11:20 AM

Concur with Zenrat.

You do have to keep the nozzle clear or it will harden and that can "travel" farther down the tube. Water will always help clear it.

It's also noticeable that they changed the container they use. The newer one is much more like a traditional putty tube. Although I have one I have not yet got around to using it yet.

PR19_Kit · July 04, 2020, 06:17:45 AM

OK, thanks for those tips.

I'll have a go at getting rid of the stuff near the nozzle and see what works then.

IIRC I didn't open it in March, I think I first used it about 2 weeks ago.

PR19_Kit · November 30, 2020, 06:07:38 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 04, 2020, 05:41:26 AM

I got a tube of this stuff the last time I was in my LHS, which was mid-March, and this week was the first time I'd used it, or tried to..........

People are saying that it's 'creamy' in consistency, but mine is almost solid. I have to press REALLY hard to get it out of the tube, and it's very dry and chalky when I get some out. It's very reluctant to stick to a primed surface, which makes it useless for PSR work for me as I generally use 3-4 coats of primer during a PSR session.

In general I'm finding it no good at all, miles worse than my usual Presto putty.

Is this behaviour normal or have I got a duff tube?

I chucked that old tube of PPP, and bought a new one. Sure enough, that's a LOT better and works quite well. It does seem a trifle chalky after using Presto putty for a zillion years, but its finer consistency makes it worth while using as a finishing step, and I've used it on on 2-3 of my latest builds with some success.

One odd thing about it though, it's a total waste of time wet sanding it as it just gets washed off totally, even after a day's worth of drying.

So thanks for the advice gentlemen, it was worth listening.

NARSES2 · November 30, 2020, 06:31:20 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2020, 06:07:38 AM

One odd thing about it though, it's a total waste of time wet sanding it as it just gets washed off totally, even after a day's worth of drying.

Tell me about it

Must admit I use it as a filler for narrow gaps/cracks and that's about it. Doesn't really work as a structural filler.

Nick · November 30, 2020, 07:17:01 AM

As I mentioned elsewhere I had to chuck my tube after it had been open for more than 8 months. I'm sticking with the Vallejo stuff for now - a smaller tube is cheaper and there's less to lose.

I think the Deluxe stuff suffered from the tube popping back to its original shape and letting air in which dried it out. The toothpaste style tubes shouldn't do that plus the cap is tighter.

frank2056 · November 30, 2020, 10:43:41 AM

I've revived some almost-dried-in-the-tube PPP with water or denatured alcohol. It don't completely bring it back to toothpaste consistency, but the zombie-PPP worked in a pinch.

zenrat · December 01, 2020, 02:11:06 AM

They seem to have realised the plastic tubes were less than perfect and thus switched to metal foil tubes which can be rolled up.
At least that's what the last two tubes i've bought were made of.

NARSES2 · December 01, 2020, 05:50:41 AM

Quote from: zenrat on December 01, 2020, 02:11:06 AM
They seem to have realised the plastic tubes were less than perfect and thus switched to metal foil tubes which can be rolled up.
At least that's what the last two tubes i've bought were made of.

My last purchases were metal tube as well.